I just received an order of JWH-018 that I had been waiting for, for three weeks and I had almost given up on coming. When I received the package I found a green Homeland Security Sticker on the outside and found that it had been slit open. The small envelope inside had been inspected and a small green piece of tape was on that. The JWH-018 still made it through, but they must have seen it in there. Should I have anything to worry about? Is my address flagged? Should I not order any more research chemicals outside the US? I'm not sure what to think of this because I've never had a package inspected by customs before. All my other packages just made it through without inspection.
Blink: I wouldn't worry to much, Usually it was something on the outside packaging that may have triggered this. I had an item that was not related to this type of package and was searched and re packaged by these guys. So you are good.
Was it in an envelope or a package? Did the envelope have company Logo or some such thing on it? If it was just an envelope with JWH-018 in it seems like the vendor you got it from is probably having their mail watched, chances of a letter with a small amount of a powder drug dogs can't smell in it being inspected are really really low. You are probably good though, although I personally wouldn't use the same address again it could possibly be on a list now but I doubt it as they sent the product on, chances are they tested a small amount of it and it didn't turn up positive for any illegal drugs with a field test kit. JWH-018 is totally legal in USA anyways so they couldn't have doen anything even if they wanted =).
Does anyone remember the anthrax scare? You are all acting like this is a big deal. The DHS does have authority to bust you over drugs. If you see an unmarked package with a little powder in it, what would you do? They more than likely tested it for NBC shit. Chill. DHS is not our enemy, its our friend. DEA is our enemy... Haven't seen you in a while twang! nice to see you posting again. EDIT binary once again rocks. It is not a scheduled chemical though so they can't stop it. I assume it was unlabeled. I still think they are more worried about other stuff than some research chemical.
DHS isn't your friend if you import drugs...Customs is a sub-agency of DHS so pretty much what happened is your package got inspected by customs. And yes, DHS does have authority to bust you for drugs, people get busted by DHS all the time importing drugs (although usually its on their person).
The main ways vendors end up having their mail watched is using the same fake return address / name multiple times, or the worst thing they can do putting company logos on the outside of the envelopes (obviously some vendors are retarded lol). If it was just a plain envelope and they use bullshit return address + switch it up they are unlikely to be having their mail watched, but vendors who use fancy packaging and don't take precautions sometimes end up with a very high amount of packages seized (Because they are idiots). I think I can guess what vendor you guys are getting this shit from, and they imo fall into the idiot category (cuz if it is who I am thinking of it is the vendor who put links to their website/email address on the wikipedia pages on drugs saying "buy online!" in the off site links section, and they are huge as fuck and very well known, so unless they are being very careful with packaging its likely they could end up having their shit watched).
See that's what I thought was weird is that there is NO WAY a drug dog could have smelled JWH-018, and yes it does appear as if they did use some sort of field marquis type test on a very, very tiny portion of it. But it was only 500mg in a small envelope that you might put a Birthday card inside. There really should have been no reason for it to be stopped. I don't order research chemicals outside the US necessarily very often. That's why I almost think that either this vendor's address is flagged somehow or my address is flagged somehow. But I still don't see why mine would be because I really don't order research chemicals really that often. Maybe once every 2 to 3 months.
Yeah the vendors packaging / return address is probably being watched. Let's see if there are a lot of reports of customs tape soon. When vendors get super big and they are not taking security precautions with their mail, their packs tend to get flagged. A small amount of a drug dogs can't smell in a birthday card being inspected by customs is pretty much unheard of unless they already know what they are looking for. edit: opps wrong image link heh thought it was a love letter
this might be a stupid question, but is buying stuff from a flagged vendor a bad idea? bad enough to not even bother?
Has anyone else here had their package inspected by customs or the Department of Homeland Security before?
You know I was looking at the remnants of the package again and this vendor included a print out inside with their web url address on it, my address, and what the order was for. I wonder if the US is watching this vendor right now?
eh its not the most horrible idea ever ever if what you are getting isn't scheduled or an analog like jwh-018 is in USA, but I tend to avoid vendors who are likely having their mail watched. even if its 100000% legal its likely to get you harrased by LE if they think you are ordering stuff to get high (IE: holding packs for weeks, opening packs, testing powders, etc). If it was on the inside of the package it wouldn't matter much. Chances are I am thinking they use the same drop box, same return address and same packaging style for all their packs and they are so big they probably worked with LE at one point and got their shit flagged up. That's obviously just a guess on my part but makes the most sense to me. I have never heard of half a gram of a powder that dogs can't smell shipped in an envelope being intercepted unless one of the addresses is flagged or the vendor packages like a total idiot (ie: URL or company name on the OUTSIDE of the envelope), at least for a pack to USA. If oyu lived in australia it wouldn't be as surprising as they tend to have some of the best customs in the world.
I'm mostly in the stoners lounge We'll see if my package has the same thing happen to it. should know in a couple weeks.
Yeah I have an order being shipped from them right now if you posted this same thing on undrug. We'll see how it goes.:toetap05:
To this vendor's credit - their JWH-018 was excellent in quality. It's just too bad that their packages are being watched IF that is the case. I mean, as of right now, we don't know exactly why the package was intercepted. Just that it was.
Sketchy. Get a new email. Use a new shipping address. Use a new name for recipient. Use different identities for payment(do not use the one used for this guy again) Dont use such sketchy vendors. Smart vendors will ignore sketchy customers and smart consumers should do the same.
what if my friend ordered meph and it got searched like blinky's, what could happen worst case scenario to a minor with a clean record?