For those not aware you call the police and say there is dangerous hostage situation at the other person's house. So the police send a SWAT team. The victim will either be arrested until the police future the situation out or killed by gunfire. This has been a common video game community "prank" for years and there are many cases of both outcomes. As a gamer I can tell you this is not a funnty joke. It's done when you believe the other person cheated or was rude to you. It's pretty easy to track an IP address and find the house address attached to it if you want to do this. Each side will say the other did it this time. It will be"He did it to be a victim" or "They did it because they hoped he would die" High probability a militant NRA supporter did this in the hopes that a prominent anti-gun figure would be killed. I have seen many posts by gun owners wishing this and they have a culture of preparing to kill and fighting for guns anyway. To many of them this teen's death is nothing but funny. Family of Stoneman Douglas student advocate David Hogg 'swatted' at home
There are fringe people on both sides. Just because the person might be an NRA supporter (which at this point is merely speculation) doesn't mean that is even a large population in that group thinks that way. I hope whoever SWATed Hogg goes to jail for a very long time. False accusations, especially the kind that puts another person's life, liberty, or reputation at stake, is one of the few things I get upset over.
The Guy calling was probably wearing a MAGA hat …lol.. Sadly we’ve had had several similar incidents here in Massachusetts including: The man told the 911 operator he had shot his girlfriend, tied up his father, and planned to shoot himself inside his Framingham home. Police rushed to the house and surrounded it, guns drawn, lights flaring. They yelled for the caller to come out. The person who walked out wasn’t the caller. It was 70-year-old woman Inside, no one was dead. No one was tied up. The only other person home was her 95-year-old mother-in-law, a double amputee, who had been asleep.
Does the US have static IP.? Here in the UK our public servers are dynamic and static IP costs a fortune, mainly because only business accounts offer the service. IP records may be kept, but they are only accessible under orders of a judge. Their is some doubt as to whether they really exist.
This could also used to terrorize the NRA. Think about it. You find some sort of militia meetings, the kind of people who are open about in on Facebook yet also think the Big Brother goverment is going to oppress them. The meeting is about the coming war and how to fight current politics they are ready and so are the cops. When a SWAT team comes it is deep state in action. They will tell them to drop the gun but that is the last thing they will do. If the SWAT team comes they are not talking either. They are going to ram the door down and shoot so the NRA member better hope he's fast. Not that I suggest that but turn about is fair play and in that situation the gun owner is MUCH more likely to A. be seen a threat to police B. be willing to elevate to gun fire in the heat of the moment than a high school kid who does not like guns.
As with all "SWATting" that would be most lame. It was certainly lame that some asshole managed to succeed in doing this for what was obviously political reasons. Any time politics gets physical, it's lame. And that includes all these black clad clowns in masks attacking people because they don't like their opinion. Imagine if the KKK decided they don't like being "blamed" for all the deeds of the hard right and decide to exact revenge, against the people ginning up the false claims. The NRA holds gun safety classes, they don't hold school shooting classes nor would they. Consider who is demonizing them and why. I don't have to be one of their fans to see that they're being mis-characterized for obvious political reasons. Sometimes you have to reject the notion of taking political sides and step back to take in the origins of all of this conflict. None of it serves the general American population. But more than a sliver of it serves political machinery, on both sides. Why be a political stooge for either party?
The NRA puts them-self where they are. It is a political agenda because they are dangerous. They could choose to be a more common sense origination that keeps the whole second amendment for war thing on the back burner. They once did this, but they decided to cater to the most extreme people and play on their insecurity. They are not victims. They could have the views they do and speak about against school shootings or the general ease in out culture of owning guns. But to do that means loos of crazy money, which in any American company is bad. The NRA is a business and they need loyal customers. Most donations come from the same people over and over and in large amounts. After a shooting the average gun owner does give more but many of them are not as involved in the gun culture or get turned off when they actuly go to a NRA meeting. So you deny it even happened?
Not something I support but as the expression goes "live by the sword die by the sword". So a NRA person being killed by a gun would be an example of that.
No, I just don't like the smug, arrogant piece of shit. Every time I see the little twat's face I want to punch it.
He has the same smugness and confidence of many right wing figures. It's a respected trait when opinions agree.
Didn’t he hang up the phone on White House when they called? That right there should tell you he is more interested in making statements that give him brownie points in gun control echo chambers than he does in wanting to make actual change: talking to law makers. Understandable though; I was once an egotistical bullheaded teenager like him. When a socialist tells me I don’t need guns, that’s how I know I need at least 3 of them.
Do you really think him taking the call fixes the gun issue? It does not. The NRA is doing this weird thing where they pretend there is some solution if only YOU would think of it for them but there is none. Any law or new regulation is the big goverment getting information they do not need. No matter how many people die you always need the right to own a gun so you do not die. I think Hogg knows his time is wasted taking the call.
