I have been given these three options for cramps and severe tension headaches. I have had codeine recently but have not had tramadol or darvocet in a long time. Which one of the three gives you the best buzz? I'm just gonna be honest if I have to take a pain killer I want the most fun one.
Darvocet, recently, was the most overdosed on prescription drug. The reason is that is has all the respiratory effects (slowed breathing, apnea ect) of a stronger opiate, but it's pain killing ability is no better than ASPIRIN. So, people, especially elderly people, as they are given this drug a lot, would double, triple ect their dose and end up ODing. It not a good drug for pain or anything else. Tramadol sucks. It also lowers your seizure threashold, so even doubling the regular dose (and even the prescribed dose sometimes) can cause seizures. It is NOT a real opiate, although it binds to the MU receptor. It was an attempt to get an "opiate" which didn''t give a buzz, what they got was something no stronger than Tylenol which gave seizures. Why any doctor still prescribes these two drugs is beyond me. The codiene has a long history of being pretty good for mild to moderate pain, with only mild side effects (drowziness, constipation, some nausea in some people and difficulty sleeping in some people.) I'd go with that, if you haven't been offered Hydrocodone, which is by far better.
Thanks Maggie! You are so darn smart. No, I haven't been offered Hydrocodone. I will stick to the codeine I just don't get a buzz off of it for some reason. I don't have a tolerance I take it maybe two days a month.
actually i find that tramadol feels quite good and is a much stronger buzz then tylenol. Personally i favor it hydrocodone.
I actually like tramadol and have taken it quite a bit during the past few weeks. It is very nice after the 500mg mark and feels incredible when you're lying in bed; that's when the buzz kicks in very nicely. Darvocet sucks donkey and codeine is alright, but I think I am one of the codeine-hardheads; having to take dangerous amounts to get a buzz and always end up getting very sweaty and anxious about my heart.
Some people are hard-headed when it comes to codeine, meaning they can't get a buzz. I think I suffer from this unfortunate affliction.
I had so much morephine last year when I was sick that I think it gave me a tolerance for all opiates. When I had my wisdom teeth out last spring they had to perscribe viccodin and tylenol seperatley because with the amount I needed the tylenol would have given me liver failure and I was a small girl then too, it just takes so much to get me doped up. So I should go with the tramadol? I remember getting a buzz off if it. I was also offered fiorecet for my headaches. I know thats a controlled drug. What is it like?
fioricet is a NON-narcotic pain reliever and relaxant. It contains butalbitol, APAP, and caffiene. I doubt there would be any buzz at all. I'm not saying you should get tramadol; I'm just saying that it is what I would choose of the three. Do some research on erowid.org if you need help deciding. You say you got a buzz from tram, then maybe that's the one to go with. Maybe if you have a tolerance to opiates, it may not pertain to tramadol, as tramadol is a SYNTHETIC opiate, but I am not sure as to whether or not there will be any cross tolerance between tramadol and real opiates.
If you DO take the Tram, please don't take more than recommended. It has a horrible history of seizure induction. It does bind with the MU receptor, like I said, so there may be some cross tolerence. I have never felt anything, not even pain releif from Tramadol. Everybody is different. I have a notoriously high tolerence to opiates, being a long time Chronic Pain Patient. Still, if it was my option of these three, I'd go with the codiene. JMO. Be careful mixing Fioracet with any of these (I have a lot of expreience with fior, being a migraine sufferer) some people get really nauseous and sleepy from it, others feel pretty good. It is barbituate based, so there will be no cross tolerance with opiates. But, be careful with it. If it if FioraNOL it has aspirin, with all it's inherent bleeding effects, FioraCET is Tylenol based, so remember how much you are taking, if you are using either the Tylenol with Codeine (no doctor writes a prescription for plain codiene, it is a C2 drug, so they go with T3s or Empirin with Codeine, which is a buffered aspirin with codiene) or the Darvocet, which also contains APAP (Tylenol.) You shouldn't take anymore than 2 grams a day of Tylenol (although I take at least 3 grams a day, in several differenet meds, but I never, and I mean NEVER use alcohol, and I have my liver checked 2 or 4 times a year for damage. I've had a clean liver as long as I have been using the meds. My doctor says he has been seeing a huge difference in liver complications, between people who never even drink socially, and those who do. The teetotalers tend to rarely, if ever have liver problems, even while using large amounts of Tylenol, but even occasional social drinking puts the liver at risk when using a lot of Tylenol. He also told me that if my liver has held up this long (I am nearly 45 years old and have used daily Tylenols products for more than a decade) with no damage, I am most likely not going to experience it. He agrees that peoeple like me, who need large amounts of liver risky drugs to survive should stay away from alcohol. But, I use this shit (Meds with APAP in them) every day, not just for a few days or weeks after a procedure. Again, your milage may vary.
TNS, a lot of people get really wasted on Fioracet. It has a hefty dose of Barbs in it. In fact, aside from Phenobarbitol, it is about the only commonly used barbituate containing drug right now. The days of getting a few Yellow Submarines or Reds when you couldn't sleep (Seconal and Nebutal) are over for good. THANKS A LOT, Lunesta............:furious3: FioraNOL (the aspirin one) is a controlled substance. FioraCET (The Tylenol one) is NOT a controlled substance. No one has ever been able to give me a reason why, because otherwise they are the same. Fioranol came out when Barbituates were in favor as a huge recreational drug, in the 1960s, and the DEA was formed, partially, to control access to barbs. (as well as other drugs) and they didn't add FioraCET until years later, when people weren't using barbituates all that much, recreationally. So, the newer one was not controlled. I remember my mother lying on the floor babbling and laughing at nothing when she used to take Fiorinol. The first time I took it I was scared, because I didn't want to do that, and although I didn't fall on the floor, it was a pleasurable experience. But, best of all, it made that awful headache go away. I need it to live now, and simply never get a buzz from ANYTHING anymore, but Fioranol and Fioracet were nice years ago. And they keep me from doing this :banghead: to stop the pain, today.
I've never had any negative reaction with even 10x+ the recommended dosage of tramadol. I never heard of that seizure shit before. I need to start being more careful.
Codiene, tramadol, and darvocet all have very limited potential as recreational drugs. While a buzz can be caught on all three, prepare to be unimpressed.
I was impressed with tramadol, but not darvocet or codiene. In fact, I didn't even try darvocet, because I heard it sucked donkey.
I have tramadol now and liked it quite a bit. I am actually looking foward to getting pms so I can pop one of those puppies
Well, they're not THAT good. I wouldn't even say they were good enough to kill ants for. They're nice, none the less. The buzz just isn't as pronounced as it could be. I only feel a strong buzz when I lie in bed while on about 850mg of tram. Other than that, barely anything at all. Decently relaxed, at best.
I don't know whether or not this is your cup of tea, but just a few days ago I took four Darvocets I found (They were pink and rather large. I don't know the dosage.) and then smoked a joint to myself. It was by far one of the most pleasurable drug abuses of my life.
heaps of drugs lower seizure threshold, usually the only people who have a problem are people who get seizures, and also if the drug is combined with something that might stir a seizure up. at any rate, tramadol looks pretty interesting, i effects a whole range of neurotransmitters apparently from opioid, serotonin, noradrenaline, and EVEN gaba. thats pretty amazing, i think teh germans were trying to create something else when they made this drug! lol i find codeine does nothing, it gives me a mild buzz but has poor pain relieving qualities. it seems it effects lots of ppl different. whatever the case, taking opiates for pain relief is sweet and horrible at same time. feels great at first but even after a few days im finding the buzz diminishes, and the pain comes back stronger when they run out.
