Cross Contamination...

I went to a little get together of 11 or so people oin the weekend, it was a 'barbeque' where there we're no less than 5 vegetarians present....

and this was what was on the menu

Sausages, kebabs, and meat patties, and to keep the vegos happy there was boiled peas, fried potato discs and onion.... oh and bread... which would have been okay except

the cook was using the same utencils to turn both the meat and the vegies... and THEN, dumped both the meat and veg on the same blood soaked plate!!!

ARGH! Anyone ever had an experience like this?

 

I'm sorry if this comes off as ignorant or rude (actually I'm not, it just feels good to say that) but why the fuck does it matter so much?

 

cos its gross!

 

may I ask what your reason for vegetarianism is? (why did I say may I ask, I gotta stop this superficial polite-ness shit)

 

no I didnt eat it.

Everyone was pretty grossed out by the whole thing

 

I don't get it. You don't eat meat for moral reasons, I assume. So what's the problem? Jim smells attention-seeking!

 

that's what I was thinking

 

Quite. I used to be that sort of veggie when I was like 14. I'd make a fuss at any opportunity, just to show people that I didn't eat meat. Oh how cool I was with my beads and tie-die! ;-P

 

well cross-contamination would be getting raw meat/blood on the veggies, which is no good because it can get you sick.. and of course make the food taste nasty. :/ sounds like drumminmama knows what she's talking about

 

well, being a reformed veggie (total joke) I still get grossed out by blood, sausages, and hamburgers...I like my steak or chicken charred (sorry folks) and I wouldn't be into a blood marinade either

 

charred steak? oh my god. that cow died in vain!

 

ha, I like to feel like a caveman who's heard a noise off in the distance, finds out its nothing, and comes back to eat what nourishment he can give his frail body even though the nights kill has been on 10 minutes too long (even htough he's not concious of the quantification of time in any other way but through rudimentary astonomy), hoping it will clear he thoughts so he can think more clearly when his anemic blood gets a trickle of replenishment.


But this doesn't happen often, this caveman, me, still doesn't eat a whole hell of a lot of meat

 

It happens. I would just refuse to eat it.

Or, just have bbq's at your own house. I have a bbq that has never had meat cooked on it. Nor will it ever.

 

Yeah that is super gross. It is not an attention thing this is a fucking vegetarian forum and if you don't like it get the fuck out. I am so sick of people coming here and being mean.

 

jim & Duck, check it out from her point of view... imagine you're travelling thru the Orient, and you realize the pot that was used to cook your lambchops was also used to boil one of your hunting dogs while you were asleep. If you have any honor at all, you'd politely decline the food. Bonus points if you kick the cook's frickin ass.

Retro_Groove: my condolences. It's frustrating, because I'm sure the BBQers meant well. After a while, you learn to put on a forced smile and say, "No thanks... I'm really in the mood for more of that delicious fruit salad!"

 

not even corn still husked?

 

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jim & Duck, check it out from her point of view... imagine you're travelling thru the Orient, and you realize the pot that was used to cook your lambchops was also used to boil one of your hunting dogs while you were asleep. If you have any honor at all, you'd politely decline the food. Bonus points if you kick the cook's frickin ass.
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You're damn right I'd refuse the food, and kick the guys 'ass'. But I'd do that because the savage bastards killed MY dog. Now here's a more appropriate analogy: I'm in the orient, and I'm offered food from a pot that definately contains dog and cat meat. I refuse the actual dog&cat bits, but eat the rest. Why wouldn't I? Only out of ridiculous squeamish effetery. What does it matter if it's been cooked with dog? I'm not killing any dogs, or even eating one that's already dead.

This is one thing that annoys me, being an ex-veggie who used to think a lot about it. A lot of veggies have this attitude - they won't (for example) eat a pizza that's had the meat picked off it. They act as if meat would poison them, rather than actualy thinking through the moral calculus of what they're doing. I defy anyone to explain the moral problem with eating veggie food off a plate that once held meat.

It's one thing for Jews and kosher utensils, but veggies? Please.

 

Well, you're right. Obviously 1 microbe of animal flesh isn't going to kill anyone. But still you've got to admire people who are so steadfast in their convictions. There was a prime minister of India who was so anti-alcohol that he refused to eat overripe grapes. Me? I slosh the stuff like water, but I'm not annoyed by the dude, personally I'm impressed.

So, yah, I'm even impressed by you, because you have a strong pro-hunting stance. You're not just some pissed-off rebel without a clue person, like a few of the trolls who come on here just to bash people who have discipline. It's sorta crazy, but I love a "worthy opponent".

P.S. Um... yeah, I totally failed moral calculus.

 

I see where you're coming from, but to me it still seems stupid - to be so obsessed by the letter of a rule that you can't see the spirit. But hell, each to his own!

But the general point I think we're heading towards is a good one. Anyone who has well-thought-out views and actually thinks about things can relate to any other such person, however distant their actual views are. E.g. my best friend up here is a commited veggie for his whole life. Me and him talk about my hunting expeditions, and he laughs and jokes about the things I've killed just as much as me, because he's a rational person. Likewise, I have friends who are more pro-hunting than me - they kill things for fun, not food. Now, however little I'd like to shoot a hundred rooks then dump them in a ditch, I'm not going to start shouting about it if my mate does.

What's really interesting, is to try and find out the point at which it ceases to be a matter of personal moral choice, and becomes something one could legitimately have a go at someone for. E.g. if the aforementioned rook-killer were to start killing people's pet cats, I'd tell him I thought it was wrong. If I saw someone beating a dog, I'd try and stop him. But if I saw someone teaching his kids that blacks are evil, I'd shudder and go on my way.

Anyway, I've shown you mine, now you show me yours! ;-P