creation or evolution

The Adam and eve story is in lots of civilizations and there's too many holes in the evolution thing for me

 

So what that means "God did it" and forget all further evaluation? im a Christian and i cant swallow the whole creationism bullshit.

 

How can I emphasize my annoyance with this question posed seriously? "OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMYYYYYYYY GGGGGGGGOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDD *ROLLS EYES*"

 

You can find holes in anything you don't want to believe. Thus, why I find creationism to be utterly ludicrous.

 

I am not afraid to slap people in this thread.

 

I say its a 50/50, but I don't care either way.

 

so whats your point ?? this says nothing.

Peace

 

He's saying the adam and eve story is relayed in so many different cultures and all things regarding evolution haven't been answered... so, he chooses to believe in creationism ( the act of creating (stories) )

() ftw!

 

such a badass

 

the adam and eve story is NOT found in lots of civilizations, it found in the abrahamic religions only.

evolution is a theory, just like every other scientific idea.

i don't know if you're suggesting that "creationism" be considered a scientifically valid theory, but IT ISNT.

creation and evolution are NOT mutually exclusive and there are plenty of rational people who believe in both.

there is negative evidence suggesting that evolution isnt the whole story. there is NO evidence, positive or negative, for creationism.

i certainly am a theist and believe in a higher being or beings, but do not subscribe to any religion. i believe in miracles and i believe in the likelihood of creation, but the genesis account of creation isn't true at all, especially not in a biblical literalist sense.

you're essentially saying that because there are flaws in a scientific theory (and scientific theories are bound to have flaws here or there sometimes, thats why they must be falsifiable - so we can find the problems and improve upon the previously held theories) that it is MORE reasonable to believe that two original people hand crafted by god led to the entire current population, one of these people essentially made from clay, the other from the first persons rib. that evolution is stupid, but that we have all the diversity of human life from a mere few thousand years of humanity, originating with two people...?

 

Genesis is a good book and is an interesting read but i agree it is just silly to take it completely literally... it needs to be interpreted in a rational way if it is of any use... having said that one could argue, that only by reading the Hebrew could one be open to understanding any meaningful interpretation.

 

Hah... or they would just be words.

 

Takes one to know one

 

Well as far as i know and i could be wrong, is that hebrew has corresponding numbers for each letter and that a lot of joining words arent in the ancient hebrew... but i well could be wrong, im no scholar of hebrew or ancient hebrew...

 

i believe in evolution.

there are too many holes, uncertainties, and abnormalities in the story of Adam and Eve.

 

What, like talking snakes?

 

thats true enough. and i happen to not take abrahamic theology all that seriously anyway, and dont think the debate between one silly, incomplete idea and another silly, incomplete idea is worthwhile. dawkins is a sham just as biblical literalists are.

here's a video clip of dennet arguing that religion is a product of evolution - http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/dan_dennett_s_response_to_rick_warren.html

he is an atheist and a scientist who happens to support teaching religion in schools - not just about them, but teaching religion! so long as all other religions are presented in a factual way without overtly negative judgment

personally i believe there is little evidence to support macroevolution, but microevolution is a proven phenomenon. i dont think natural selection is enough to entirely explain existance as we know it, but to immediately jump conclude the only other possibility is this one tiny, narrowminded possibility out of thousands, if not millions, of other equally plausible or implausible possibilities is....well....pretty dumb, in my opinion.

which is not to say that i think people who believe in judaism, christianity, or islam are stupid; just that its not the only tradition out there, and its not the only idea out there of how things came to be. the idea that it is the ONLY alternative to evolutionary theory is absurd.

 

Native americans and australians share a similas creation story which is the same as the egyption story .The gene pool proves we are all decended from arround 30,000 people .Evolution is just a theory which science disproves on a regular basis .The truth is no one knows but I personally believe in creation .Those of you who say I'm wrong cant prove anythig and it makes me sad that you got annoyed by the question

 

yes, and the fact that i don't think that polar bears and lions lived harmoniously together.

 

I totally agree, especially about teaching religion in school, ive always had the luck to learn about religion... any one i wanted with out being preached to, it gave me an opportunity to percieve it for myself.

I think it is worth mentioning many Christians would be offended that i call myself Christian. Personally i wouldnt suggest to anyone that my beliefs are correct, i like to believe in a wrathful God and i like to believe in a forgiving saviour, so it works for me. Also i have some other theories i dont want to get into but basically, some of the bible is meant to be literal but most of it is symbolic, but thats just my opinion.