Couple suing McDonald's says fries 'poison' to their child

Discussion in 'Consumer Advocacy' started by karol4u, Feb 21, 2006.

  1. karol4u

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  2. Kris?

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    In super size me it said we can't sue fast food anymore...Did i miss something?
     
  3. kitty fabulous

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    i don't know. my son's allergic to wheat, but not ceiliac, so far as we know. (a biopsy is required to diagnose ceiliac disease) we've been gluten-free for a year. but from what i know of ceiliac disease, it can be pretty serious. if there is even a trace of gluten in their fry oil (for example, if they fry breaded items in the same oil) it is enough to cause serious damage in ceiliacs, (like the bleeding ulcers) and they may have a real case. ceiliac disease is a serious thing, it's not just whiners wanting to eat special foods and get attention.
     
  4. karol4u

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    I'm sure your son has a serious problem... I did not mean to offend you.. It's just lately everyone is after the big companies... Like Walmart , McDonalds, Wendy's.. After the Wendy's finger food fiasco... You don't know who to believe anymore... I would trust that MacDonalds is telling the truth in their latest press release, stating that there is O gluten in their oil... Who knows , though.. I'm not denying that their are thousands of people out there that need to watch their diet, and have serious diseases.. The same applies to the few who sued MacDonalds for making them fat... I'm sick and tired of reading about these frivolous lawsuits tying up our court sytems... Shame on them.... END!
     
  5. heron

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    Sounds to me like as soon as they saw McD's take the fries of the list, they
    justified everything that has gone wrong with the little girl the past couple years.

    She seemed to be fine before that.

    But then again, who knows what the fuck is in that food.
     
  6. PolythenePam

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    i think for anyone to assume anything at mcdonalds is anywhere close to being healthy is a BIG mistake! yes mcdonalds shouldn't be putting those ingredients in french fries! BUT on the same token, people DO tend to go after the big companies for stupid shit.
    it irritates me because i am a vegetarian when i tried going vegan i thought it was ok to eat mcdonalds fries...i guess not. i guess assuming is what gets us all in trouble
     
  7. PolythenePam

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    ohhh p.s. i agree with Heron...some of the stuff they put in that food...it scares me to just think about it. i have a friend that jokes about "kangaroo meat" instead of hamburger meat...etc. etc. and he calls it "fake food" does anyone really know whats in some of that crap?!?! haha
     
  8. kitty fabulous

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    they stated there is no gluten in their fries. and i'm sure there isn't - in the fries themselves. they tested the oil the fries are cooked in, but it is not stating whether they tested the fresh oil, or the stuff that had been sitting in the fryer all day - and there is probably a reason for this. even if no gluten is contained in the oil itself, if gluten-containing products are cooked in the same oil, the oil is contaminated enough to cause serious intestinal damage and pain to a celiac.

    does anyone remember the last scandal about mcdonald's fries, and vegetarianism? this created a huge stir in india, where much of the population eschews meat, or at least, beef, for cultural and religious reasons. mcdonald's made the claim that they valued their vegetarian customers, and their fries were cooked in 100% vegetable oil, and were therefore safe for vegetarians. and it's true, that vegetable cooking oil is vegetarian. but it was revealed later that the fries themselves were flavored with beef fat. mcdonald's was sued over this, and lost. big time. they mopped the floor with them in india. afterwards, mcdonalds came out with this grand PR statement, assuring the public that they valued their vegetarian customers, and their fries were cooked in 100% vegetable oil...the scandal continues, in that part of the settlement of the $10 million lawsuit stated that part of that money was to go to vegetarian groups, and it is unclear to me at this point whether or not they've done that.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/06/05/national/main511109.shtml
    http://www.compassionatespirit.com/McDonalds-lawsuit-fries-vegetarian-nerves.htm
    www.compassionatespirit.com/McDonalds-Lawsuit-Timeline.htm

    heron, if you read the article, please note that the parents are not suing with the claim that the gluten in the fries caused the child's autism or other problems, including the celiac. gluten doesn't cause celiac disease, celiac disease is the body's inability to tolerate even a trace amount of gluten at all. the intestinal damage in celiacs caused by exposure to even a trace amount of gluten can be excruciatingly painful, and, if continued over time, even deadly. in celiacs, trace gluten can cause bleeding ulcers and even seizures as described. furthermore, the couple argued that exposure to the alledged gluten in the fries slowed the treatment of their daughter's autism, not that it caused it. there is somewhat controversial evidence that gluten intolerance has been linked to autism. while i have no opinion on this subject either way not having seen the data, it's still something to consider.

    was the couple foolish for allowing their child to eat the fries in the first place? well, personally, i haven't allowed my kids to eat mcdonald's fries even as a rare treat ever since the beef fat issue went down, and i choose not to support the mcdonald's corporation for other, political reasons which i'm not going to go into here and now. however, celiacs have an extremely limited diet, and for a child, that can be rough. organizations for celiac patients often publish lists of "safe" foods that children or adults can eat. what i gather from this article is not that the daily fries were supposed to me a major source of nourishment for the child, but a treat to brighten up what can at times be an otherwise monotonous diet - perhaps they routinely stopped by the restaraunt on the way home from school or therapy or something.

    is gluten a "poison"? well, it's very dangerous for someone who has celiac disease or an allergy, but personally i feel that this couple's insistance at labelling gluten a "poison" is eye-rollingly over-dramatic. gluten is a very, very dangerous and potentially fatal substance for celiacs. but most of the world doesn't have celiac disease, or even a gluten allergy (there is a difference). it's fine for everyone else. to demonize a naturally occuring substance simply because it is bad for some people is juvenile.

    regarding supersize me, and the confusion over "not being able to sue fast food chains", that ruling was not exempting fast food chains from being sued at all or placing them above the law. the ruling in the lawsuit found that if children (in that case teens) make the decision to eat a constant, steady diet of fast food from a particular restaraunt, and base their nutritional choices on its advertising and not, say, health class, then that's their own damn fault if they're fat little porkers as a result. (do i think fast food advertising to children and teens is ethical the way its being done now? no. do i think fast food belongs in schools? no. but i can see the argument that this lawsuit was excessive.)

    i agree that lawsuits are horribly abused in this country. the hot-coffee suits and wendy's finger incident were ludicrious, and i'm glad that woman got what she deserved. however, as evidenced by mcdonald's past track record for disregard of consumer needs and false advertising, it is also true that many corporations grossly abuse and manipulate the public's trust. even though i may personally feel that this couple are being a pair of drama queens regarding the use of the word "poison", the truth is mcdonald's has lied about its ingredients in the past, and that the lawsuit is one of the most effective weapons consumers have to defend themselves against corporate abuse and deception. unfortunately, farces like the finger fraud at wendy's weaken this weapon's effectiveness, both in the courtroom, and in the public's eye.
     
  9. teh-horace

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    that's what i got out of that movie
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  10. Weissdorn

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    It doesn't surprise me that some people are no longer able to tolerate fast food anymore. The famous French Dietician, Michael Montignac, considers "Pommes de terre" the source for the decline of Western civilization.


    Incidently, McDonald's can't sell that many fries anymore in Germany, ever since they switched frying the potato strips from palm oil to rape oil.

    Rape is a major crop plant in Europe used to make a number products, including salad oil, cosmetics and biological diesel. Ever since I started dumping a few bottles of salad oil into my Golf diesel, I can't stand the smell of McDonald's anymore. If you have a diesel auto, I would recommend you dumping 4 quarts of salad oil for every gallon of diesel you tank up with, and you, too, will gag when you even smell a McDonald's three blocks away.
     
  11. Flight From Ashiya

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    McDonalds have only themselves to blame for the years of bad publicity.It was pressure from criticism;especially 'Supersize Me',that led to them introducing side-salads.
    I can eat their 'Fillet O'Fish' & their chocolate doughnuts but not much else.The last time I ate a Big Mac: I went red in the face & my body felt bloated.
     
  12. Love_N_it

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    Has it ever occured to you that the accusations made in this lawsuit are valid?

    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/local_news/epaper/2006/02/21/m1b_gluten_0221.html

    http://www.advancedhealthplan.com/acrylamide.html

    google "french fries cause cancer".

    the problem is that there is no way to isolate the source of cancer among humans anymore because all of us are exposed to an unlimited amount of contaminants from birth.
    the next problem is that even if scientist can prove that low doses of a chemical causes a massive amount of tumors in lab-rats,
    this government will still allow that product to be fed to humans.

    Since they can't crossreference the data compiled on rats with humans, and humans are so contaminated that no one source can be blamed for cancer..
    we 'the people' will continue to be treated like lab-rats.

    Somebody'll figure it out oneday.
     
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    Rotten Ronnies buy from the McCain brothers from eastern Canada who have monopolized the potato industry and evaded monopoly law charges. Due to economic
    pressures, farmers have started growing on the downslopes, and the fertilizers run into the streams. Fertilzers grow algae, algae uses oxygen, and fish eggs don't hatch.
    Fish fry in P.E.I. have been almost non-existant for a couple of years now. How can someone sue an empire? McDonalds everyday is bad, I wouldn't feel good either. I was blown away by "the smoking fry" extra on the "Super Size Me" dvd. What do they do to them? After watching awhile ago, my hubby Brian wanted to seal one in a glass tube and date it. I might go and buy fries tomorrow and if I do I will post some pics.LOL
     
  14. karol4u

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    I guess that's your opinion... And your welcome to it... Obviosly you have major problem with MacDonals... I don't ... I stick by mine opinion... Takes your kids to Burger King... End of thread.... I know unsubscribe... bye bye
     
  15. kitty fabulous

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    wow, man...someone really needs to calm down and breathe.:rolleyes:
     
  16. heron

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    I never said mcdonalds caused autism kitty, that would be retarded.

    But, i am itching for a double cheeseburger now.
     
  17. kitty fabulous

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    good for you. go get one. just exercise extreme caution around the fries. :p
     
  18. heron

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    Well, as long as they dont burn me. But as far as fries go, i prefer Ward's, its an old southern fast food chain, and their fries are good and cheap.
     
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    whoa!!!! time for an intervention of sorts. careful now! don't go getting any of these folks started and/or addicted to ward's fries. it breaks my heart to see you scrounging change on the floor of the van like a crackhead picking crumbs out the carpet!

    don't mess with hot fat,
    cuz it burns bad,
    and so do skin grafts,
    would you like an apple pie with that?
     
  20. heron

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    Ha! you know me well breaux. Might go get a fix tommorow.
     
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