Convince my close-minded friend

Hello!

My friend, who's a very cool guy, is extremely close-minded about psychedelics. He also has an enormous ego. He drinks every few weeks (I think), and he smoked weed once or twice and didn't like it.

He believes that ANY drug creates a false sense of temporary happiness and he would like achieve happiness the true "hard" way (through friends, etc). He thinks that drugs like shrooms and LSD have bad long term effects and a possible short term good effect. I just wish I could spike his drink with MDMA so he can be a bit more open and we could get to the bottom of this lol... Obviously I wouldn't do that though. He's convinced that even if they effects were positive he would still regret doing it for "his own reasons" aka ego-reasons.

Anyways, if anyone has any advice on how to convince my friend it would be helpful. It feels bad knowing that he's missing out on something so incredible.

Thanks

 

let him find it on his own

 

Yep i know the feeling. Some people are against the whole thing nothing you can do, just keep buggin him and show him info that it's not bad.

 

there some things that some people will never understand.

 

I think that is an interesting opinion that he has.

 

Have him read through this debate about LSD. He may see and "hear" himself in my opponent and that may make him realize that he is just being closed-minded for no good reasons. It also shows that according to real scientific research LSD is less harmful than many common items people take every day, like caffeine and alcohol.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Medical-Studies-Prove-The-Extensive-Damage-LSD-Does-To-The-Body-Mind

 

You can't. There are some people who are partial to drugs and some who don't like them and some are just indifferent to them. He has to come around on his own, pressuring him into it won't work. I'll tell you why, because as soon as he gets his hands on some lsd, some ketamine....or a really good strain of kush and he feels that high. He's going to either get paranoid or freak out and won't relax and enjoy it. If it helps at all, I was once one of those....hugs not drugs types...when I was young anyways..I think I was like 15 and then I started doing them and after awhile I just fell in love with the idea of diving deeper into my consciousness and exploring new things. Some people never come around. You should just accept that not everyone enjoys drugs...I know its insane to me too why wouldn't someone enjoy drugs. But, it's not for everyone.

 

Ok, my personal suggestion is that this Guy will not like it. I could be wrong but of the folks I've seen who have a really hard time with it really fit his profile well.

Another potential is that if he does it, he will be a different person altogether after the experience and may end up resenting you for "making him face all these extra, difficult choices he now has to make in life". I've gone through that with a couple folks. Not fun. Best to just be you and let him be him and hope he comes around to it on his own.

It just seem's to me that some folks are way too indoctrinated into mainstream society to where it's probably better off for you to let them keep their laces straight and untie them in their own good time. :cheers2:

 

Great advice, thanks everyone

 

+1 I totally agree with this. Psychs are not for everyone.

 

Happiness is subjective. There is no "right" way to achieve it. If he thinks friends are the key to happiness, that is his trip. Don't bother trying to convince him, just enjoy your own ride.

 

But you will never know if Lsd will make you happier if you never do it

 

Let him believe what he wants to believe and do what he wants to do. If he does not try to stop you from doing them, you should give him the same courtesy and not try to make him do them. I am sure you feel he would be better trying them and I am sure he feels you would be better not doing anymore.To each his own I suppose. Worry about what makes you happy, and don't try to force it on others.

 

But the people who do dose know what its like. I don't know why people make such a big deal its only one day out of your whole life out of how many days? Not to mention you are completely normal again after the trip, only more inspired in life.

 

Yeah, but you can't force it upon someone. If they don't wanna try it, yes, they are missing out but that's their choice.

 

Good for him to be honest. You don't need drugs for spiritual advancement. I wouldn't call it ego, unless you consider anybody who disagrees with you to have an ego ;p

 

He has a sound opinion and you should let him keep it.
YOU obviously think psychs are the bomb-diggity.
He doesn't, it is okay.

 

seriously though, out of who's tried them and who didn't have an ultra-bad trip, who doesn't?

 

Well once the whole "introspectiveness" thing takes hold in your psyche, you come to see even the "bad trips" as quite powerful learning tools which can greatly assist one's personal growth.

 

Ignorance is bliss mang. Psychs don't let you not think. If he wants to be a totally sober person, then let him. Nothing wrong with that.

I love my totally sober friends for who they are. Do I think they should try something? Fuck yeah. I don't ask most of these people more than a few times though. Show him the facts and let go. Sober people are cool because they think so differently than I do. I love variety. I love people. (Hate is another word that I can think of when I think about people as well though... )