The liberal argument that they are a tolerant party and that the conservative party is one of intolerance is bullshit. The liberals are just as intolerant as the conservatives. The only difference is that the liberals choose to be intolerant of conservative values. In fact, for most liberal supported issues (i.e. social) if conservatives don't take the same stance as the liberals they are considered to be a bigot. Now how is that any different from conservatives being disagreeable or intolerant of liberal ideas? I'm not saying that conservatives are right and the liberals are wrong or vice versa. I am just saying that the decleration of the liberal party that the conservative party is intolerant is a hypocritical statement.
As far as politics and bigotry go, democrats were the avid supporters of segregation in the 50's and 60's.
Both sides are full of shit. This is why I never identify myself as conservative or liberal. I simply hold a Libertarian philosophy that people should be able to do whatever the fuck the want, as long as they aren't putting other people's lives in danger. It is literally that simple.
Well I don't konw if you mean republicans and democrats...or republicans and everythign that isn't republican, but I would just like to make a point. There is too much generalization of both parties. Just because I am not a republican doesn't mean I want to take everyone's guns away and stop going to war when attacked. Just because I am not a democrat doesn't mean that I want to abolish abortion and am a war-monger. We get a lot of threads like this, where someone wants to generalize everyone who isn't of their political party, and frankly, it is bullshit. I tend to be more liberal in my views, but that doesn't mean I am going to let a paticular political party make my decisions for me. There are a lot of conservative values that I stand by. There are a lot of liberal values I stand by. Not because they are conservative or liberal, but because they are MY values. I am by no means intolerant. The original post was just stupid. You want to come to a forum which is obviously going to be liberal and start generalizing and attacking liberals, expect some intolerance.
I'm not attacking liberals. I believe in some liberal views and some conservative views. I was just saying that the liberal parties' statement that conservatives are generally intolerant is a hypocritical statement, because of the reasons I stated above. Besides why wouldn't I want to start an argument. They are the only threads that are fun. This is all just for fun and nobody is going to get hurt out of it. The worst thing that would happen is changing someone's opinion.
sense when has the democratic party ever stood for any real liberal values? They are definitely a moderate conservative party
The Democratic Party does have liberals, but most of them aren't favored by the Democrat establishment, which (esp. since Clinton) has had a policy of straddling the middle, and so has become pretty moderate. And if the Dem establishment doesn't like you, then you're not getting their nomination - look at what happened to Dean.
right on pressed rat... if everybody just lived their own lives there wouldn't be any democrat's or republicans... you'd either be a prude or a whore. HA!
Fuck that, I make no claim that I am a moral relativist. Racism, sexism, heterosexism, and relgious bigotry are evil.
Democrats and Republicans are not based on ideologies as some would have you believe, they are based on ever shifting alliances of special interests and always have been. The ideology springs from that alliance and justifies it. What the hell does tort reform have to do with school prayer? What the hell does media ownership have to do with gun control? It's only third parties that base themselves on principal and that's the main reason why they always fail.
Heh heh, I can't fuckin tolerate all this intolerance. The fact is that conservitaves paint liberals as a bunch of pansy-asses who support peni being painted on the Mona Lisa. And liberals paint conservatives as testosterone injecting tax cutting, freedom infringing war mongers. And both of them are wrong. See, the basic problem with the liberal/conservative, republican/democrat/ peanut butter in my chocolate/chocolate in my peanut butter argument, is that it's allways in black in white. Yer either Thing 1 or Thing 2, and if ya don't pick, ya don't have a say. And this is what I find ignorent. That people have to force themselves to fit a prepackaged mold of right or left. The political system in America takes no account of the broad pallate of political views across the nation, and indeed, in one individual.
My thoughts exactly. Although that does happen to be peanut butter in my chocolate, and I won't stand for it.
Ya know what tastes great, yet is terribly unhealthy for ya? A peanut butter and Nutella sandwich on white bread. It's like eating a big Reeses.
Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh may have once been Siamese twins...but whoever hacked them apart missed a few key strokes. Just a thought.....
