Consciousness revolution

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  1. vansrouge

    vansrouge Member

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    We always trust in love, so anything that makes us confortable and in joy is good.

    We are in a period of changes, the vision is to a better society, a society working in harmony. It's the dream becoming true, civilizing humans.

    Can you please share your thoughts against these consciousness revolution? Maybe the world heads working against us using love? The powerful weapon?

    It can be a question of ego don't wanting to die, but before it die, I would like to see some answers.

    Thanks.

    Peace. :sunny:
     
  2. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    How do you know there is a consciousness revolution coming? God told you?
     
  3. junglejack

    junglejack aiko aiko

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    The Consciousness Revolution was a period of spiritual awakening in American history, according to Strauss and Howe in their books Generations and Fourth Turning. They put the years of the Consciousness Revolution as 1964 to 1984. Under Strauss & Howe's system, the era before the Consciousness Revolution was the American High; the era that follows it is the Culture Wars era.

    The Consciousness Revolution began with urban riots and campus fury and swelled alongside Vietnam War protests and a rebellious counterculture. It gave rise to feminist, environmental, and black power movements and to a steep rise in violent crime and family breakup. After the fury peaked with Watergate in 1974, passions turned inward toward New Age lifestyles and spiritual rebirth. The mood expired during Ronald Reagan's Presidential re-election campaign in 1984 as one-time hippies reached their yuppie chrysalis


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    peace&understanding
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  4. vansrouge

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    It's possible to observe how human beings are evolving, and it's "more" notable since 1900.

    The society has been always sick at some point but today the war against other humans is more a counsciousness war than body war.

    It's almost impossible to erradicate suffering, counsciousness needs to change.

    There's nothing to fear here, but to me it's better to have "body freedom" not just cousciousness freedom.

    P.S- The meaning of consciousness is very superficial here.
     
  5. walsh

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    Evolving? What has evolved? If anything we're now devolving, swimming in a sea of mind-borne concepts and illusions brought on by technology, further and further from reality. No one is willing to face the fact of human suffering experienced by everyone.
     
  6. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Huh?
     
  7. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Suffering is the end result of the bodies struggle to change and evolve into a higher being :2thumbsup:



    Hotwater
     
  8. walsh

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    Huh what? Everyone asks me "how's it going", do you ever hear anyone say anything other than fine, okay, great, or not bad?
     
  9. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I have or do. What is your response to the question? People ask me and I tell them that I would rather not say. It is kind of annoying to me to be asked to take stock of my condition on someones whim. If I have a complaint, it is more trouble to relate it, than it is worth.

    I take our condition seriously and am very aware of the transience of personal concern, so I am somewhat grateful as a rule. I agree with you though, that there is much social nicety that is without heart or genuine concern.
     
  10. thedope

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    Could be equal as well to just staying even. Metabolism is a fire that consumes as much as it is stoked. Warm blooded is a bitch.
     
  11. walsh

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    I feel if everyone were totally honest with themselves and others, saying 'I'm not good' or however, which is the case 95% of the time, the consciousness revolution would come a lot sooner.
     
  12. thedope

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    I agree. Some people are terrified to be alone with themselves long enough to see any genuine thing about themselves. Many more simply do not know what to do with what they truly see about themselves. It is unfortunate that human being does not always come with an owners manual.

    We could start at the beginning and say everything is an idea and honesty means in practice, consistency, where what you say and what you do become the same.
     
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    But a human being comes with a community which they force Him to belong to even more when he avoids official Participation In.
     
  14. vansrouge

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    Lately, the West has been experiencing new levels of consciousness. These levels are proving the many defects of society to which many were not aware.

    The information that we had no access is making us away from other levels of consciousness that make us suffer. The ego has been revealed as necessary, but the it needs to be controlled. For a long time it was used to keep us in "lower frequencies".

    The entire educational system promotes ego. Involvement with an ego cause excessive mental activity that leads to a major schizophrenia, as the ego has been associated with the body and replacing the true self, it interacts directly with the body causing pain and suffering. The ego is the cause of all problems and solutions, it's because of the identification with him that he became unbalanced.

    Thanks to all who follow their hearts toward freedom in the 60's due to them our consciousness has been evolving continuously.

    While the existence accept all levels of consciousness, vibrate at higher levels is more healthy, love becomes again the essence.

    Love is the answer, the lack of love causes all kinds of problems, we all seek to be loved. How love is our solution, it can also be a weapon.

    "Beware the man with the mouth of Buddha and the heart of the serpent."

    I have a feeling that the West is exploiting the teachings of the East. Meditation has become a commodity, and the master a entrepreneur, that's what scares me.

    If the interior becomes everything, the outside will be forgotten. We will be in big trouble. The exterior has always been valued and the interior is denied, it was all over in what we are seeing today.

    I'm afraid that people will become neutral because of this revolution. I try not to judge, I try to be tolerant, but when it comes to harmony I can't forget.

    P.S- I'm sorry if the words and tenses aren't correct, I'm learning to talk english, so I hope you can understand it.
     
  15. walsh

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    What happens if you control ego? Have you tried it?
     
  16. vansrouge

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    I can tell you. Can you understand it?
     
  17. walsh

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    Tell us then. You said it needs to be controlled...
     
  18. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    See the movie "The Holy Man" with Eddie Murphy. It is a commentary on people using spirituality to sell stuff.

    The other thing I see happening that I am none to pleased about is this whole idea of using "consciousness" to sell things and promote careers. I'll use Madonna as an example. Madonna is about the most shallow entertainer out there. She got where she is through manipulation and the concept of style over substance. She is a clothes hanger. A slave to fashion. A blank slate for the top designers to put ugly clothes on.

    Then Madonna has children. She then becomes "Spiritual" decides she is a Kabbalist, want's to call herself Esther, wear a red thread on her wrist and spout half informed theories based on the jargon of astrology and numerology. Granted she hasn't done shit in years (Hooray) but if she makes a comeback it will be interesting to see what she is going to pull out of her ass to exploit next.

    Stay Brown,
    Rev J
     
  19. vansrouge

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    What do I know that you don't know? Or, what do I have that you don't have?

    Can I give you the truth? Yes I can give you, but you have it too, everyone shares it. If I tell you it'll become just a lie pointing to the truth.

    Try it, it's not that hard. A few times meditating while doing your stuff and you'll realize the difference between identification with thoughts and the observer.


    Thank you Rev J, I didn't know about Madonna. It's interesting. I'll see that movie then.
     
  20. thedope

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    For the purposes of discussion of expansion of consciousness, the word ego represents a sense of identification that is fostered by the belief that ones own body is in fact, the only true representative of self. In other words, that ego thinks it is a body.

    That ego reasons that since it is a body, confined in space, that it is separate from all other phenomena. The bodies evidence to the ego is that it is alone, and it's proof is accomplished when you die.

    It is this ego's reasoning that is suspect, meaning it need not be controlled but exposed as false, and therefore by definition not true. Consciousness as an identity is wholly abstract, you cannot see, smell, touch, hear, or taste it. Of the body, all can be sensed. You can see, smell, touch, hear, and taste it.

    The body is built from coded information and it is this information that produces a scaffolding through which this information is illumined. The body then is common biological stock through which consciousness is expressed.
    The body does not belong to the individual consciousness that inhabits it, as this separate consciousness did not create the body through which it communicates. There are no discrete systems.
     

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