Completely Neutral in regards to politics of humans

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  1. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Given the track record of humans in perceiving and following those laws to date, I think that's pretty much the equivalent of anarchy. Are your saying that while waiting for God to take over directly, we should rely on humans to obey God's laws? Or are you saying that in the meantime, humans should submit to civil authority, no matter how unjust or oppressive? Either way, your solution is unhelpful.
     
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  2. inthelibrary

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    No, we as individuals obey Gods Laws and mans laws until God takes over
     
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    for each will carry his own load
     
  4. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Lol, wow, suggesting god might be a she is mocking...her, him, whatever.

    Oi....well, good luck from here on in
     
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  5. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Its still not the same god anyway, whole bunch of different traditions and emphasis between 2000 BC, 100 AD, 746 AD, 1609AD etc across 3 main offshoots
     
  6. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    So which god are we talking about here?

    Anu, Enlil, Enki, Utu, Inanna, Nanna, Marduk, Nergal, Tiamat, Shamash, Ea, Ashur, Ishtar, Shamash, Elil, Ahura Mazda, Zeus, Hera, Poseidon, Demeter, Ares, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Hephaestus, Aphrodite, Hermes, Achelois , Achelous, Aeolus, Aether, Alastor, Alcyone, Atlas, Hemera, Oceanus, Artemis,Pleione, Alectrona, Amphitrite,Nereid, Antheia, Aphaea, Aristaeus, Asclepius, Astraea , Até, Atropos, Attis, Bia, Boreas, Brizo, Chaos, Cronus, Nyx, Rhea, Hera, Erebus, Coeus,Phoebe, Tartarus, Tethys, Eros, Iapetus, Pontus, Hyperion, Hephaestus, Gaia, Mnemosyne, Uranus, Theia, Crius, Hestia,Themis, Hades, Aeolus, Achlys, Achos, Alala, Alastor, Amphitrite, Ania, Ariadne, Asclepius, Asteria, Astraeus, Bia, Charon, Cratus, Deimos, Eileithyia, Elpis. Enyo, Eos, Epimetheus, Eris, Eurus, Eutychia, Geras, Harmonia, Hebe, Hecate, Helios, Heracles, Homados, Hypnos, Iris, Khione, Kydoimos, Leto, Lethe, Lupe, Melinoe, Momus, Moros, Morpheus, Nemesis, Nike, Notus, Oizys, Paean, Palaemon, Pallas, Palioxis, Pan, Persephone, Perses, Phobos, Phrike, Polemos, Proioxis, Prometheus, Psyche, Selene, Soter, Soteria, Thanatos, Triton, Tyche, Zelus, Zephyrus, Yahweh, Adonai, Yahweh-Maccaddeshem, Yahweh-Rohi, Yahweh-Shammah, Yahweh-Rapha, Yahweh-Tsidkenu, Yahweh-Jireh, Yahweh-Nissi, Yahweh-Shalom, Yahweh-Sabbaoth, Yahweh-Ghmolah, Elohim, El-Elyon, El-Gibhor, El-Olam, El-Roi, El-Shaddai-Rohi, El-Chuwl, El-Deah, Attiyq Youm, Aasgard, Aegir, Aesir, Alfheim, Alfheimr, Amma(2), Andhrimnir, Andvari, Angerbda, Angrboda, Asbru, Asegeir, Asgaard, Asgard, Asgardr, Asgård, Ask, Askr, Astrild, Audhumbia, Audhumla, Audumbla, Audumla, Aurgelmir, Aurvandil, Aurvandill, Auðhumbla, Auðhumla, Auðumla, Balder, Baldr, Baldur, Baudihillie, Bestla, Beyla, Bifrost, Bilfrost, Bjort, Blid, Bor, Borr, Brage, Bragi, Brunhilde, Brunhilt, Brunnhilde, Brynhild, Buri, Byggvir, Bylgia, Dafn, Dis, Eir, Elli, Embla, Fafnir, Fenric, Fenrir, Fenris, Fenrisulfr, Fjorgyn, Forseti, Frey, Freya, Freyja, Freyr, Fricco, Frigg, Frigga, Frost Giants, Fulla, Gangleri, Garm, Gefion, Gefjon, Geirrod, Geirskokul, Gerd, Gerda, Gerdhr, Gersemi, Gerth, Gertrude, Gerutha, Ginnungagap, Gjalp, Gladsheim, Gladsheimr, Glut, Godheim, Goll, Gondul, Gotterdammerung, Goðheimar, Goðheimr, Greip, Grid, Groa, Gudrun, Guinn, Gullintani, Gullveig, Gulveig, Gunn, Gunnlod, Guttorm, Har, Hardgrep, Harr, Hati, Havamal, Heid, Heidrun, Heimdall, Heimdallr, Hel, Hela, Helgardh, Helheim, Helheimr, Hell, Herfjoturr, Hermod, Hermoth, Hertha, Hild, Hladgunnr, Hlin, Hlock, Hlodyn, Hnoss, Hnossa, Hod, Hodur, Hohnir, Holda, Holle, Holler, Honir, Hraesvelg, Hreidmar, Hrist, Hrungnir, Hrym, Huldra, Hyldemoer, Hymir, Hyndla, Hyrokkin, Hár, Hávamál, Ice Giants, Idun, Iduna, Idunn, Jafenhar, Jafnhar, Jafnharr, Jafnhárr, Jarnsaxa, Jeirolul, Jola, Jord, Jormungand, Jotnar, Jotunheim, Judur, Jötunheimr, Kara, Kvasir, Laga, Laufey, Lif, Lifthrasir, Liv, Loder, Lofn, Loke, Loki, Loki Laufeyjarson, Lokkju, Lopter, Lopti, Líf, Lífthrasir, Magni, Manheimr, Mani, Mannheim, Midgard, Mimir, Mist, Miðgarðr, Mjollner, Mjollnir, Mjolnir, Modgud, Modi, Muspelheim, Muspelheimr, Muspell, Muspellsheimr, Mysterious Three, Nanna, Narfi, Nari, Narvi, Nehalennia, Nibelungs, Nicor, Nidavellir, Nidhogg, Nidhoggr, Nidhøg, Niflheim, Niflheimr, Niflhel, Nine Worlds, Nithhogg, Niu Heimar, Niðavellir, Njoerd, Njor, Njord, Njoror, Njorth, Njörðr, Norns, Nott, Nídhögg, Níu Heimar, Níðhögg, Níðhöggr, Od, Odin, Odinn, Odur, Oller, Othinn, Otr, Otter(2), Poetic Edda , Radgrid, Ragnarok, Ragnarök, Ragnarøkr, Ragnorak, Rainbow Bridge, Ran, Ratatosk, Ratatoskr, Regin, Rig, Rind, Rindr, Saga, Sibilja, Siegfried, Sif, Sigurd, Sigyn, Sjofn, Skadi, Skaoi, Skeggiold, Skirnir, Skogul, Skoll, Skuld, Sleipner, Sleipnir, Snotra, Sol, Surt, Suttung, Svartalfheim, Svartalfheimr, Svartálfheimr, Swan Maidens, Syn, Sól, Thialfi, Thiassi, Thor, Thridi, Thrud, Thrudheim, Tyr, Týr, Ull, Uller, Ullr, Urd, Urth, Urðr, Vafthrudnir, Vafthruthnir, Vafþrúðnir, Vaganhope, Vak, Valder, Valhalla, Vali, Vali(2), Valkyries, Valkyrja, Valtam, Vanaheim, Vanaheimr, Vanir, Ve, Verdandi, Vidar, Vili, Ville, Volsungs, Vuldr, Walkyries, Wave Maidens , Yggdrasil, Yggdrasill, Ymir, Yngvi, Yngvi Freyr , Álfheimr, Ásgarðr, Åsgard, Æsgard, Þriðji, Þórr, Jesus, the Holy Ghost, Ac Yanto, Acan, Acantuns, Acat, Ah Bolom Tzacab, Ah Bolon Dz'acab, Ah Bolon Dzacab, Ah Chicum Ek, Ah Chicumek, Ah Ciliz, Ah Cuxtal, Ah Hoya, Ah Hulneb, Ah Kin, Ah Kinchil, Ah Mucen Cab, Ah Muzen Cab, Ah Muzencab, Ah Peku, Ah Puch, Ah Tzenul, Ah Tzul, Ah Uuk Yol Zip, Ahau Kin, Ahpuch, Akbul, Alaghom Naom, Alaghom Naom Tzentel, Alphabet Gods, Bacab, Bacabs, Backlum Chaam, Balam, Balams, Balanque, Becabs, Belachina, Ben Elaba, Beydo, Bolon Dzacab, Bolon Ti Ku, Bolon Tiku, Bolon Tzacab, Bolon Tzakab, Bolontiku, Bulkabil, Buluc Chabtan, Buluk Kab, Cabracan, Cabrakan, Cacoch, Cakulha, Cama Zotz, Camazotz, Can Tzicnal, Caneques, Cantzicnal, Cauac, Chaac, Chaak, Chac, Chac Chel, Chac Mol, Chac Mool, Chac Uayeb Xoc, Chac Xib Chac, Chacmool, Chak, Chaob, Chibilkin, Chiccan, Chicchan, Chuen, Cit Bolon Tum, Cizin, Cocijo, Colicha Cozee, Copijcha, Coqueelaa, Coquenexo, Coqui Bezelao, Coqui Huani, Coqui Xee, Coyopa, Cozaana, Dubdo, Ek Chuah, Ek Chuuah, Ek Zip, Ekchuah, Etz'nab, Etznab, Fat God, Frog God, Gi, Gii, Giii, God A, God A', God B, God C, God Ch, God D, God E, God F, God G, God H, God K, God L, God M, God N, God O, God P, God Q, God S, God Y, God Z, Gucumatz, Hacha Kyum, Hachakyum, Harakan, Hero Twins, Hobnil, Hosanek, Hozanek, Huechaana, Huichaana, Hun Ahau, Hun Ahaw, Hun Aphu, Hun Batz, Hun Came, Hun Choen, Hun Chowen, Hun Hunahpu, Hun Hunaphu, Hun Nal, Hun Nal Ye, Hun Nal Yeh, Hun Nik, Hun Pic Tok, Hunab Ku, Hunahau, Hunahpu, Hunaphu, 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Xpiyacoc, Xquic, Yaluk, Yax Balam, Yum Cimih, Yum Cimil, Yum Kaax, Yum Kax, Yum Kimil, Zac Cimi, Zipacna, Zotz.
    Or Bob, or Connie?

    I realize I left a few hundred of the list, but I got tired.
    Please clarify.​
     
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  7. inthelibrary

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    sadly, your list does not have the true God Jehovah in it. Interesting...not much of a compilation I would say..to obviously leave out Jehovah
     
  8. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Lolz, there is a god calked Yum Kaax.

    Thats my god from now on, just need to say his name in the right accent
     
  9. Okiefreak

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    Jews, Christians, and Muslims believe they were all worshiping the same G-d, the G-d of Abraham and Moses. Of course, Jews and Muslims are hard monotheists, while Christians follow the more complex version of a Trinity and an incarnate Son. But they still view it as the same G-d, whether (S)he's called ha-Shem, God, or Allah.
    I think you managed to leave out all of my favorites: Amun-Ra, Ptah, Osiris, Isis, Horus, Serapis, and Seth, for the Egyptians. Inanna (aka, Ishtar, Astarte) for the Mesopotamians; Ahrura-Mazda, and Angra-mainyu (aka, Ahriman) for the Persians; huitzilopochtli, Quetzalcoatl (aka, Kukulcan), and Topcatlipoca, and Tllaloc for the Aztec-Toltec-Maya culture; and of course Brahman, Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, and Krishna for the Hindus.
     
  10. Okiefreak

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    But the list does contain several names for the Abrahamic G-d: Yahweh, Adonai, Yahweh-Maccaddeshem, Yahweh-Rohi, Yahweh-Shammah, Yahweh-Rapha, Yahweh-Tsidkenu, Yahweh-Jireh, Yahweh-Nissi, Yahweh-Shalom, Yahweh-Sabbaoth, Yahweh-Ghmolah, Elohim, El-Elyon, El-Gibhor, El-Olam, El-Roi, El-Shaddai-Rohi, El-Chuwl, El-Deah. (A bit redundant if you ask me). The name which Ha-Shem gave to Moses was יהוה (YHWH)., which by scholarly consensus is rendered "Yahweh". The Latinized variant "Jehovah", is mainly used by Jehovah's Witnesses. Is that what you are? For a critique of the Witnesses' use of "Jehovah", see
    Is Jehovah the true name of God?
    What About the Name Jehovah?
    Jehovah's Witnesses abuse the divine name YHWH of my God
     
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  11. lode

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    So who would win in a fight: god or Squirrel Girl?

    Yahweh:

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    Superpowers: Super Strength. Immortality. Created World in 7 days.

    Weaknesses: Graven images. People forgetting the Sabath, Taking his name in vain.

    Squirrel Girl:

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    Superpowers: Ability to summon armies of squirrels. Pluck. Unbeatablity. A reality shaper.

    Weaknesses: None.


    Results? A complete curb stomp of god by Squirrel Girl. While it took Yahweh 7 whole days to make the earth, it's possible for a reality bender like squirrel girl to wipe this out in an instant. This isn't her style though and we'd simply cut to the next panel, god huddled over after being confounded by thousands of squirrels.

    Fight is unlikely though. While Yahweh is quite moody, Squirrel Girl is very good natured, and would prefer to simply share some acorns with god and her sidekick Monkey Joe.
     
  12. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    You mean Johovah 1?
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  13. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Yeah, I got tired. Too many gods running around, that's why the modern Jews, Christians, and Muslims condensed them all down into one.
    I think they used a holy blender.
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    But of course, they still fight and go to war over their own version of the "one god".​
     
  14. MeAgain

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    So the question becomes...why all the different names?
    According to my readings the Jewish religion was not always monotheistic. The big wigs just smashed everything together...consultation of power.
     
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    We need to see a Squirrel girl movie to see how whack Marvel can get, and if they can pull complete whackness off.

    Didnt she defeat Thanos at one stage?
     
  17. Okiefreak

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    The original name used by the Hebrews for their God was El, the Ugaritic term for deuty (Elaha in Aramaic, Allah in Arabic), meaning "power". The term Elohim is plural for gods. However, it came to mean the one God of Israel, and is believed to have been used to refer to God in the northern Kingdom of Israel. El was the name of the Canaanite High God, who in Canaanite religions presided over a divine council. The different variants of El refer to different attributes of El: e.g.,El-Shaddai (the Self Sufficient God or God Almighty,, El Echad (the One God), El Saddick (the Righteous God), El Olam (the Everlasting God), El Hannorah, (the Awesome God), etc. They don't refer to different gods.

    However, in Exodus 6:3 God reveals to Moses His real name, and explains :" I appeared to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as El Shaddai, and by my name Yahweh I was not known to them." The new name, Yahweh, is believed by secular scholars to be a new god picked up by the Israelites and equated with El. Yahweh seems to have been worshiped by the Shasu Arabs, steppe dwellers in the region of Midian in southern TransJordan, mentioned by the Egyptians as people of Yhw. Moses is said to have encountered this God in Midian. His father-in-law, Jethro, was a high priest of the nomadic Kennite clan in Midian (supposedly, descendants of Cain). Several scholars think that Moses learned about Yahweh from the Kennites, or that itinerant Kennites brought this god to the Israelites. Moses was the special folk hero of the southern kingdom of Judah, and the term "Yahweh" is used to designate God in the so-called J source of the Bible in Welhausen's "documentary hypothesis--Elohim being used in the northern kingdom of Israel. After the destruction of the northern kingdom by the Assyrians, the "Yahweh only" faction, represented by the prophets, came south, and their scriptures were integrated with those of Judah--so that the names Yaweh and Elohim are used in different passages to designate God.

    You are correct that other gods were worshiped in the kingdoms of Israel and Judah besides Yahweh. Originally, the Hebrews seemed to have practiced henotheism and/or monolatry. Henotheism was defined by Max Mueller, who coined the term, as monarchical polytheism. El or Yahweh was like Zeus, the head honcho of the gods, but others can be worshiped. This was a common pattern in the Near East, where various nations had their own special patron gods: Chemosh was the national god of the Moabites, Dagon was patron god of the Philistines, Yahweh was the god of Israel and Judah, etc. Monolatry is the idea that one god should be worshiped exclusively, even though others exist. It's clear that the prophets believed the Israelites should be worshiping only Yahweh, to the exclusion of all other gods.The Bible presents this as an outgrowth of covenants which Yahweh/El made with Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Moses.

    The Bible tells us that many gods and goddesses were worshiped in the two kingdoms--because of people falling away from the worship of Yahweh and the intrusion of foreign gods, often as a result of alliances by the kings with foreign powers and taking foreign wives. Baal, in particular, the Canaanite storm god, was seen as a rival to Yahweh, Lord of armies, due to the encouragement of King Ahab and his Phoenician queen, Jezebel. According to the OT, Elijah was able to discredit Baal and establish the credibility of Yahweh as a rainmaker in a famous showdown with the pagan priests. The prophets attacked these idolatrous practices, first in the north and then, after the Assyrians destroyed the Kingdom of Israel, in the southern kingdom of Judah. The emergence of Yahweh as the only God, of Israel and everybody else, probably happened during the Babylonian captivity, when the Babylonians destroyed the first temple and the captive elite of Judah had to reinforce their faith or risk its extinction. .
     
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  18. lode

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    Crushed him.

    According to Marvel, all her stats are maxed at 7 putting her in the cosmic being category, among the likes of Galactus.

    Squirrel Girl (Doreen Green) In Comics Powers, Villains, History | Marvel

    She did end up in a fight with Galactus, but they decided to be friends, which is why I predicted the same for her fight with Jehovah.
     
  19. monkjr

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    So does this mean all the religions throughout time are playing a giant social media game to try and get *gasp* “followers”!!!!

    Zomg, the millennial generation and generation-Z are freaky superficial.
     
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