Communist Chinese Invade Mainland USA

Remember that corporate oil deal where the Chinese wanted to buy out Unocal? It didn't go through because, as I read in an opinion or editorial piece somewhere, "The political climate wasn't right." In other words Americans weren't happy having one of their howegrown oil companies owned by Commie China.

Well on our recent trip "out west" I was surprised to see a local newspaper headline about "Chinese rigs and work gangs" on Colorado's western slope near Pyramid where they've already "drilled and flared" a couple oil wells. Sounds like the Communists are invading and drilling on American terra firma and I didn't even know it.

So it's an economic not a military invasion. But who'd have thought it.

This development is interesting because it raises a lot of fascinating questions about economic management. About central vs local or market control. What mix of communism and capitalism is China pursuing? How well are the Chinese managing their economy? Are they doing better or is there a trend of their ultimately doing better serving their people than the US?

It's not a new idea of course that a combination of capitalism and communism may work better than either one alone, i.e. small scale marketing in a larger communist context.

(As everyone already knows I'm not an economic theory marxist (at this point I reserve the right to plead ignorance on the matter) but when it comes to promoting fairness in an unfair world consider me a hardcore communist.)

 

What we have in America right now is a combination of Capitalism and Communism (ie: socialism), and I don't think it's working to the benefit of anyone but the Elite. More and more people are losing jobs to outsourcing, while small businesses are going belly-up as corporate power becomes more and more centralized. This is exactly what Communism is: Monopoly Capitalism in the hands of an elite few -- the centralization of money and power.

This country is controlled by communists, whether you or anyone else in here agrees with it or not.

The same people behind China's economic upsurge are the same people behind America's economic decline. It's all being controlled, manipulated and planned from behind the scenes by the Global Elite and their CFR/Trilateral/Bilderberg minions.

 

Sorry, socialism?! a society of equals in which the economy is run democratically! Look like america. But yeh america is happy to deal with china now, infact its pracitcally eonomically dependant on it. They seem to have completley forgotten about tainememan spr. I dont see whats changed so radically in china since then.

 

Skip, that's also very true. The U$ ruling class cannot wait to get it's hnds on the markets in china. Now as for communism in china since when? Even when it really was going about claiming to be communist china was really infact just another stalinist dictatorship. I wouldnt bother explaining this to rat however becuase we're all clearley pawns in the hands of the illuminati anyway.

 

Is that all you can do is attack, Skip?

FYI - I have read the Communist Manifesto. Hasn't every 15 yr. old self-professed "hippy" and "anarchist"?

The fact is there is a big fucking difference between Communism as it is sold to the gullible masses, and Communism as it is in reality. Nothing that is evil is ever sold that way. If it was, people like yourself would not buy into it.

The fact is, this ideology in which you support is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions of people, and the enslavement of hundreds of millions more. There is no utopian society as the communists see it. There never has and there never will be.

Again, Communism is nothing more than a hoax created and funded by the central banks to dupe and enslave humanity. See Wall Street's Utopian Hoax.

I bet you didn't even know the US put Mao into power.

I bet you didn't know that Wall Street funded Lenin and the Bolshevik Revolution.

You recommend I take a history course? Why, so I can be fed a bunch of bullshit? I might as well just take everything you say at face value and not ask questions (which I am sure is what you would like). The fact is, all the schools and universites do is push the same FALSE history that has been sold by the establishment for years. College is nothing more than a tool of indoctrination, and most of the shit they teach - especially involving politics and history - is absolute rubbish. Perhaps you're a victim of this indoctrination, Skip. I think you are.

Yes, the Global Elite IS manipulating China. They are manipulating China by sending huge chunks of our economy over there while slowly eviscerating the American Middle and Working Class. They are building China up to be the world's next super-power, which I believe will eventually lead to a war between China and the US, which will be the war needed to usher in the Elite's totalitarian New World Order.

You aren't one to talk about "reality", Skip. All I ever see you do is parrot the stereotypical Leftie chorus lines that seem to have come straight from the pages of Mother Jones and Michael Moore's latest halfwit snoozer of a book. It doesn't take a lot to spew the same old rehashed rhetoric, but it takes a lot to think outside of the box and look at things from a different angle from what is portrayed by the establishment. Try it sometime.

 

Stalinism, Marxism, Leninism, Trotskyism.... it's all the same thing to me. All of these people were either funded and/or used by the Elite to achieve their goals.

American propaganda has almost always portrayed Communism as an outside threat, when the reality is that Communism has long been a tool used by people within our own government - who often portray themselves as "conservatives" or "liberals" - to consolidate wealth and power. George W. Bush, in my opinion, is a communist. A communist parading as a Christian conservative. Since people are so dumb, they fall for it. They see everything at face value. If CNN and FOX says Bush is a "conservative" then he must be. If Bush pretends to be Christian in order to dupe the ignorant and uninformed "Christian Right" into supporting him and his fascist, imperialist agenda, then he must be a Christian. What fucking bullocks!

If American capitalism was "threatened" by Communism, as you claim, why are all major banking families socialists? Why were Lenin and Trotsky both funded by Wall Street? Why was the US behind Mao's rise to power?

So you're saying China is responsible for sending all our manufacturing jobs overseas?

Of course it is. That's because 99% of Americans are blind to what's going on. Most Americans are dumb and stupid. This includes the large majority of BOTH liberals and conservatives, BOTH of who are falling for the big lie.

Right, because after all, our "elected" leaders actually care about the US Constitution and the American people. Sure. Their allegience to devoted to the US and its people. After all, the media says so.

No, Communism strives for the enslavement of all humanity, despite what all the sugar-coated propaganda leads you to believe.

Who is in control of Socialism and Communism, Skip? The people or the government? Or are you trying to say socialist and communist societies consist of no government?

What about government, Skip? Where does government come into play with all of this?

 

Skippy -

What I am saying can be confirmed by people like Georgetown Professor Carroll Quigley (a former Clinton friend & mentor), the author of Tragedy & Hope (a must-read book!). Carroll Quigley is a liberal might I add.

It can also be confirmed by people like Stanford Professor Antony C. Sutton of the UK. Antony Sutton is the author of such acclaimed books as Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution and Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler.

 

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I bet you didn't even know the US put Mao into power.

I bet you didn't know that Wall Street funded Lenin and the Bolshevik Revolution.

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AHAHAHHAHAH. Classic.

Any more up your sleeve? Please? I love these.

 

Yet, Jim, you have nothing to add but insult. You did nothing to refute or disprove what I said. Why should we do anything other than ignore you?

Put up or shut up.

 

Skip

Rat believes that Hitler was secretly a Jew, in fact a member of the house of Rothschild and that he was in on that illuminati conspiracy that most people call World War Two. He also seems to think that the war was really all about setting up the right conditions so that Jewish Zionist could take over the West Bank and create Greater Israeli.

Recorded in post 17 in the thread
Why do the national libertarians keep reminding me of the Nazis?
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1540403#post1540403

And you have just twigged that he just might be a bit off the deep end?

 

Skip: Well said!

rat: Why would I want to "refute or disprove" your hilarious ramblings? They amuse me endlessly; long may they continue! I gave up debunking you when I realized that you don't believe this crap any more than I do - now I just admire the artistry.

 

Dear Skip

The Great Jewish Conspiracy, is just one of Rat’s angles the others are right wing libertarianism and a certain US nationalism.

You should check out the thread started by Rat called –
Tribute to Immigration's Terry Anderson
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87769&page=1&pp=10


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So who brought Hitler to power? Do you think he simply came to power on his own, after living an almost beatnik existence selling artwork on the street?

Then again, most of you people also believe Osama bin Laden came to power on his own, despite being funded and trained by the CIA.

I will be the first to admit that Hitler was a sick and evil man, but he wasn't half as sick and evil as those who were behind his rise to power, who used the persecution of the Jews to their own gain.

If Hitler was such a threat to the rest of the western world, how come he was funded by banking cartels like the Rothschild front, Brown Brothers Harriman, which Dubya's granddaddy, Prescott Bush, sat on the board of?

I bet most of you people don't even know that the Bush dynasty was created in part by the Bushes business dealings with the Nazis.