Common to find LSD on different sized blotter?

So I've had a variety of different psychedelics now, but LSD is not one of them. I have however had 25I-NBOMe on standard sized 1/4" x 1/4" blotter paper.

I understand this is the standard size for blotter, and recently picked up some LSD, but was slightly worried when I noticed it's closer to 1cm x 1cm in size.

This isn't an ID question but rather.. To someone who actively buys LSD would you be concerned by a larger blotter? Is it pretty much a given that it's not LSD, or are different sized blotters rather common?

Just curious because if everyone here turns out to say that all the bigger blotter they've bought was not in fact LSD, then I'll definitely save it for a time when I have a couple days free in case it's DOC or something. If different sizes aren't too rare then I'll just risk it at an appropriate time (in a safe location of course though, just in case I don't get what I bargain for!)

Edit: Forgot to mention, I'm in Europe. I've heard some people saying that blotter here is normally larger, and stronger, with 1 hit typically being enough for a solid trip and some people even taking 1/2?

 

LSD blotter tends to be bigger than DOx/25x blotter. What you've got sounds like LSD.

A good step to take is google the artwork. It's not definitive but if you find 20 posts from 1 month ago of people in Europe saying it's Dox, well, that's a good sign.

My experience with EU acid is wonderful. If you get good EU acid then half a hit will indeed make you trip well.

 

one time I got acid that was on a very tiny blotter, 1/8" by 1/8" and it wasnt perforated but cut kinda crooked on one of the four sides. It was magazine paper thin and flimsy, not like the normally thick blotter paper most acid is, and was blue with a small picture of a sun on one side. Thinking it might be fake I bought only one hit in order to not lose too much money in case i got ripped off. I took the hit and ended up tripping fairly hard off of it. I thought the trip was speedy but don't think it was an RC since there was no taste. I think it was probably LSD

 

it's not like lsd is industry regulated, it's as big as the guy happens to cut it.

 

Thanks, I'm mostly overly paranoid because I've yet to ever consume something and be misled about what it is, even after being up to around ~30 odd different drugs now. I wouldn't want this to be the first.

I've no reason to believe it's not LSD though as the guy who recommended the dealer to my friend is trustworthy and has bought LSD from him many times in the past and highly recommended him.

The print is Alex Grey's Pregnancy, but I couldn't find any info on that blotter on Google.



PS, picture was taken by my friend who picked it up for me, it's yet to get in my hands, and only 1 of the 3 hits is mine, but hopefully that'll be all I need for my first trip

 

Did he measure it then? And tell you it's not the right size? Or are you just guessing?

It looks right to me.

It's abnormal, but as has been said, other blotters are often actually smaller.

I think there's a DOB report on erowid concerning oversized and clearly marked blotter. And of course anything can be on anything. But I'd be prepared (as always, with a technically unknown substance on a piece of paper) for the worst, and hope for the best.

Or you could look into a test kit.

 

He didn't measure it with a ruler or anything but he measured it against the 25I-NBOMe tabs and it was about 1.5x the size, they're 6mm x 6mm (1/4" x 1/4") so that makes it around 1cm x 1cm.

I'll definitely get my hands on some Ehrlichs at some point but probably not before I consume this blotter since it'll be fairly soon.

I'll just make sure I'm prepared for a 24+ hour trip just in case

 

Just BTW, dox is not an intense trip that long.

I don't know my dose, but I had DOB. The intense part was, in visuals and the other things that people consider "tripping", maybe 6 hours. I WAS trying to sober myself for much of it, because of a scheduling error, BUT still. I had a pleasant afterglow all night, and the tip-of-the-tongue sensation it gave me lasted until I went to bed the next day.

But you won't be tripping balls for that long, that's just how long SOME effects last.

 

I think there are two standard sizes for blotter when you purchase the sheets from online vendors;
1/4" square and 3/8" square.

 

depends on the nature of the x substitution...of DOx right?

i think there are two sizes as well.


i didn't mean to scare you if i did in the other thread.

not that i've came across a lot of acid, but i've only ever seen 1/4" by 1/4" hits. making a 10 strip 2.5 inches long.

1 cm squares (or 3/8") seem pretty big to me. that would make a 10 strip almost 4 inches long.

the only different sized blotters i've seen were unperfed, and had lines drawn on smaller to basically give me less than i bargained for.

i've never seen blotters in person that were 1 cm squares. and i've seen blotters that were 1/4" squares but were not LSD.

and i've had a few euro prints (hoffman2010s, red shivas, blue ganeshas) which i believe were all 1/4"
not all euro acid is created equal IMO. i thought the shivas were noticeably stronger, but maybe it's all in my head. 1/2 hit gave my brother his first trip and it was strong.

if it's a little smaller than 1 cm, i'd be more trusting.

but i think DOx may generally come on thicker, harder blotter, since it has to hold more.

i thought these were general rules, but maybe just my own personal experience. we should really just convert to the metric system already....

 

These two threads are practically colliding together. I never really measured it, but the Euro prints always seemed slightly bigger than the American/"family" prints. Maybe that's in my head too. 1cm x 1 cm would make it roughly a little less than twice as big as the family prints, and I don't think that's the case either. That measurement might have been off. I guess one day I might be able to put them side-by-side and be able to say for sure, but it's all vials in my neck of the woods right now. It just makes sense the Europeans would use the metric system instead of inches.

You're right that not all the Euro prints are equal. Even on the same sheet sometimes there might be a few hits that are stronger than others. I never got ahold of Red Shivas, but the Blue Ganeshas are noticeably stronger than the Hofmann 2010s, which were sort of weak. The Red Ganeshas sucked so bad they were $2 a hit in my area.

 

Yes, but I don't think any of them produce a strong trip, if any "trip", for a full 24 hours. Maybe mild/threshold effects.

It was, possibly, over 40 hours after DOB until I was baseline, but I was not "tripping" for most of that time.

 

^^i also meant to say it would depend greatly on dose..

 

At the end of the day, I don't think that the size of the blotter is that big of a deal if we are talking millimetres difference. The producers of the actual blotter paper aren't on a real standardized system. For example, in Eruope, sheets come in 5's lined up in a row, making 500 hits per unit typically now , as opposed to the seemingly random number (941 or something similar) to satisfy the imperial system of measurement in a prefect square.

One must simply assess whether the trust is there for their source. If the source can really be trusted, how could they sell you another substance? Unless you subscribe to the non-LSD25 ergoloids conspiracy. The source should be sampling their product, and they should be educated enough on the substance to tell the difference.

 

i never heard of sheets with 941 hits...thought a sheet was 1000

but i have seen huge rectangular sections of blotter art that were probably not 1000 hits (in photos)

edit: oh yeah, a sheet is 100
shows how much i know
but they do make sheets of blotter art that are a lot more than 100 hits
maybe those are 900 some odd hits in some cases

shows how much i know

 

1000 is a book 10,000 is a bible I thought.

I have had doses that were a bit smaller then normal one time, and they still were acid. They were not perforated. It looked like someone had cut them by their own measurements so some hits were oddly shaped and smaller.

But I have been ripped off a few times on odd looking blotter. For the most part I find the dose size is standard

 

If you look at blotter art sites you can see the exact number, I forget it.
I'm pretty sure these are not in a perfect 1000.
At least not the ones with one image over the entire sheet. If we are talking ones with the entire image taking up 25 hits, then 1000 is obviously more likely, but the 25 hit art looks much more common in Euro tabs where they use more even numbers.
I'm fairly certain that most new blotters in Europe are dipped in strips of 5 sheets of 100. So the dipped paper ends up being 50x10. There is a possibility that I have only seen these rectangles off of bigger rectangles though. It is possible that these rectangles of 500 are actually attached vertically before dipping (50xn).
Numbers wise, I guess the rectangular system in Europe makes more sense, because people seem to want to purchase in increments of ten.


EDIT:
There are so many names for these different amounts of acid. Tenpacks, bibles, books, pages etc. I used to know more about what they meant, but everyone seems to have different interpretations of what they mean, at least online. Possibly because people who deal in these amounts don't talk about it much.

I could be wrong about modern american hits, and I might just be thinking of art blotter. WOW blotter is less standardized apparently.

Different sizes of blotters probably have something to do with the actual math of dipping the sheets. The dipper always needs to use the exact same size of paper and same density for their calculations of potency to be accurate.

Checking blotter art sites yields that most of the blotter art appears to be 900 perfed squares. Even on these sites there is no standard.

Every dipper is on their own with regards to what they use.

 

Yeah, the full size sheets are often an odd number of perfed hits.
The biggest determining factor on sheet size is the press it's being printed on.

 

as I understand the most common lingo for quantity goes like this:
100 - Sheet
1,000 - page
10,000 - book
100,000 or all of the blotters produced = the Bible

Sometimes the whole picture if it takes up a lot of hits (usually 500, 900, or 1000 in this case) may also be called a sheet. It takes 500 hits to see the whole Blue Ganeshas, for instance, so in that case some of the bulk distributors may call the whole picture a "sheet".

 

I've had a cartoon shiva, and I think the sheet was 100, but it could also have been 25. Online proper sheets are always neat mulpuples of 10, but IRL sheets seem to be 25, when I've seen or heard of them....Come to think of it, those may have been oversized.