Just want some general info on cocaine... Thinking about maybe trying it once. Not so sure just sounds like something I'd at least try. I wouldn't let it turn into a problem or anything. What's your opinion on it? Have you tried it? Any really bad side effects? How much is it usually/what units does it sell by? What is the dosage? Coke Vs. Molly? (I know they aren't similar chemically but they're both seen as party drugs)
Coke in a nutshell: unless you know a friend who can vouch for high quality you are most likely going to get really shitty coke and be pissed you wasted your money when some adderall or the like would have been cheaper and funner. IF the coke is GOOD you'll likely spend whatever cash you have on you for more; good coke is REALLY fun no doubt, but it's also extremely moreish. The only one who can really foresee a problem with it is yourself. I know plenty of people who can indulge every so often and be fine and plenty who fiend, even with shitty coke. If you've ever had self control issues with anything, I'd steer clear. Otherwise, if you're assured good quality and "set a limit" in regards to amount bought/amount spent, then I'd say it's worth a night of fun. Be warned though, if this is a case where you have access to it whenever you want, things could get a bit out of hand, be safe! :devil: Oh and as for the molly vs. coke...molly hands down! Again this is assuming good quality...
Yah I will amend what you said in the Op, you just want to do it one night, not once. The peak effects are under an hour and you are guaranteed to redose. I'd liken the high of a few moderate lines to downing a couple energy drinks mixed with a moderate anasthetic effect. I usually would get a few grams, didn't weigh the dose, just kind of more or less eyeball it. Worst side effects I got were bloody noses and wicked hangovers. I don't really have any desire to try it anymore but it can be fun. I don't find many similaities between them aside from a rush but Molly is way better. Coke can make some people really arrogant and even hostile, I'd reccommend to choose wisely who you do it with if you go through with it.
It's been decades since I had any, and from some of your descriptions, you guys never had GOOD coke. For a brief 3 months in '79 an acquaintance made a connection with some gay male nurse who managed to get the best drugs. For those few months there was a steady supply of Peruvian coke of mythical quality. Tested at 93% with a pungent ether like aroma and pink color when cutting a rock, it was astounding. 1/10 of a gram was a decent dose and the high was like multiple orgasms after getting blown by a trio of angels with the boost of energy and ego worthy of Superman. It was even better than the 1/4 oz of pharmaceutical grade he stole from the ophthalmology surgery dept. only down side was it cost $150 a gram . Good quality coke has a wildly euphoric and energetic high, but alas, most you get today is crap. Rules of thumb for sane coke use: 1) stick with powder, don't step up to injecting or crack, the addiction potential goes up exponentially when you have more potent, purified forms. This goes for any addictive substance. 2) it is like most amphetamine like substances, MDMA included, and acts on the dopamine system and as such years of use/abuse will burn out the receptors and render the person a miserable emotionless zombie. 3) going along with this is the old "chasing the dragon syndrome". You will never recapture the uniqueness of the first really "good" coke high, but will be compelled to try. That is when problems arise. 4) it costs too much money for what it does
The sought after effects from MDMA come primarily from its serotonin releasing effects, 5ht action and indirect oxytocin release. While it does effect dopamine as well, this is generally not considered as central to the experience it produces. I've done blow with a guy who used to did it frequently in the 80's and some stuff has been fairly comparable said by him. Cocaethylene is better imo then straight up coke.
What I meant is that I'm 100% sure that I won't let it ruin my life, and I've had run ins with meth and what not and I am completely determined to make sure it doesn't become a problem. Thanks.... Yeah I worry that I would buy a lot and then just keep redosing. I'll probably stick to molly if anything. Thanks, yeah I assume that I would keep redosing but I would make sure not to buy enough for anything bad to happen. Probably won't go through with it since I don't really know many legitimate drug dealers/I'd rather just stick to molly if I want to go out and party. At least I can get decently clean molly.
Coke is very expensive for the length of the high. Do a few lines and see how much you despise the sound of the birds chirping in the morning. The hangover is so bad people keep doing it if they have it. Plus your supporting the cartels. Colombians sell it to the Mexicans who then smuggle it all over the world. This is because we did such a good job choking out the Caribbean the Colombians said fuck it and let someone else do the dirty work. This is the only way coke is trafficked. You know what Latin people call coke? "our little revenge to the white man". They know what it does.
Supporting the cartels to me is no better or worse than supporting the company that has a 15 year old chines girl making 30 cents an hour to put together smart phones and laptops.
it's worth every damn cent put into it! and i've never had a hangover from cocaine. the comedown sucks, but it's not so bad if you time it right. just keep a healthy stash of benzos to knock you out after you're done, and sleep it off. to the OP: the dosages and effects vary from person to person. some people are more sensitive to cocaine than others. some guys can do several grams in one night, others OD on that. no-one can tell you your optimal dosage, you just have to find it out for yourself. start small with a dosage less than 100mg and move up from there. injecting is messy and snorting is the best way to go, in my opinion. it is worth all the hype this drug gets. it doesn't get better than this. it's one of the best things happen to my life. i'm in love with the thing, that's how amazing it is. whether it works for you (it isn't for everyone) is something you have to find out for yourself.
How would you compare it to MDMA? I just assume it would be amped up but w/o all of the love and empathy stuff.
Never tried it but it seems ok to me. You could always try a small amount first. Just make sure it's good stuff and hasn't been cut with anything bad. Also, it does apparently REALLY speed the heart up, so I wouldn't take it if you have any real concerns about your heart health
Coke is MDMA without the happiness. The confidence is there but that is it. You feel like superman and you will talk non stop like rolling but I would take MDMA any day over it.
Thanks! I'll probably just stay away from coke. Don't really want to deal with the possible edginess or anything. Plus coke can be cut with some really fucked up things like Levamisole or whatever. MDMA is probably the best bet (assuming it's clean) and the happiness is always fun.
If you're looking to have a recreational experience with a stimulant, it is way safer to try something like adderall, which is just a mixture of amphetamines. That way you can be sure of dosage and purity.
I kinda like coke, but only I guess because I like natural stuff. Coca leaves. It kinda reminds me of caffeine from coffee beans but stronger O.O And no I haven't tried it as of yet
Thanks for all the input. Trying to stay away from drugs in general so if I chose anything I would probably go with MDMA, it isn't addictive and the happiness is really amazing plus there is no way to have a bad experience unless you take too much.
