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MBlake81 · Nov 21, 2005

Hello hip forums people, I have a few questions to ask the folks that know something of astrology. Id like to know what this really means..

My sun is in scorpio.
My moon is Virgo
my rising is virgo
and my mars is virgo.
My mercury is scorpio.

Now ive read that virgo is altered slighty depending on where mercury is placed in a birth chart. Since mine is in scorpio how is my virgo traits altered?

What id really like to know is all together what it adds up to or in other words.. what does it mean?

My appologies if this is crazy but id really like to find out.

Thank you, Mblake.

Keanua Otter · Nov 25, 2005

i would imagine that while you prolly want to lash out and do some serious damage, your thoughtful, helping virgo moon, mars and rising makes you stop and reconsider your actions. with mercury scorpio, you might like to talk about sex, death, rebirth, power etc and communicate intensly. you could feel alot of conflict and guilt about dark, brooding powers and need to find healing ways to express your sexuality. Nov. 19 also has issues with control and repression, rebelling and reforming, radical and conservative, and power issues in general.
P.s. your apologizing for asking a "crazy" question is a good example of that virgo moon consideration.

White Feather · Nov 25, 2005

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[size=-1]This placement denotes a drive for power in matters regarding mental or analytical accomplishment. It might be said that this placement actually compells you to want to learn and to broadly expand your understanding of many varied subjects. Accordingly, you are likely to remain involved in continuing education and mental development for many years, if not for your entire life. Travel and study are strongly marked in your nature, and you may become a little impatient if you can't move about freely and receive a constant flow of mental stimulation. This placement produces teachers, writers or persons some way involved with enterprises disseminating information. You always communicate so well that you are one of those people who has a faculty for saying the right thing, at the right time. The ability to express ideas effectively is always important to you. You seem to remain ever optimistic, even when things don't go your way. Do be cautious of becoming intellectually over-confident, as it is easy for one with this position to fall into a pattern of intellectual arrogance, especially when dealing with those less well informed.
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[size=-1]In Scorpio, Mercury produces a mind that is secretive, investigative, and probing. Your method of expression is positive, and maybe a little intolerant, skeptical, and suspicious. A deep and penetrating thinker, you can dig in to the core of any issue with little wasted time or effort. You intuitive mind is capable of profound insights.[/size] [size=-1]You are very good at keeping secrets. Plans and schemes are often carried on in secret. You are also very good at digging out secrets and getting to the bottom of complex issues. Thus, with this placement you may have the skills to become a detective, an investigator, or a researcher. There is much scientific ability with Mercury in Scorpio because of the innate curiosity. You are so perceptive that you "know" the unseen weaknesses and strengths of people with whom you come in contact. You have a way of seeking hidden truths and perhaps the hidden secrets of life itself.[/size]

[size=-1]You can be very incisive with your tongue or with your pen. Often using sharp language, you refuse to mince words or show much concern for the feelings of others. You either say exactly what you are thinking or you remain completely silent.[/size]

[size=-1]You can be very stubborn in your mental determination and tenacity. Your adaptability is limited in an intellectual sense because your highly emotional approach often has you prejudiced and focused on a set objective.
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[size=-1]Mercury residing in the third house produces an association with this location, its natural home, the house of the conscious mind. This placement stimulates matters of the mind, and shows that you are witty and clever, especially in the use of words. Not necessarily a deep thinker, but alert, adaptable, and versatile. You express ideas fluently, and display a variety of talents. You may find a tendency to become involved in many superficial contacts and passing fancies, because your mind remains always active and busy.
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[size=-1]The Moon in your first house suggests that your feelings are hypersensitive and play a significant role in the definition of your personality. This is a personality that is very malleable. You make easy and quick adjustments to the demands of the moment. It's hard for you to be sure just what to do, because you are continuously in a restless state. It's also hard for you to make long-range plans because of the fluctuations in feelings. Frequent mood changes mark your personality. If you are not busy revising your goals and objectives, you are probably procrastinating and unsure about what you want to do and where you want to go. You are both sensitive and responsive to public opinion, so you are easily influenced by those around you.
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[size=-1]A Virgo Moon generates a definite reserve in expression, and a personality that is often critical and analytical. You are not unemotional, but it is difficult for you to delineate what you feel. Consequently, you can sometimes come across as a little cold, detached, or prudish. You can seem stuffy and proud, when in fact, you are rather easily hurt.[/size] [size=-1]Your desire to be considered superior intellectually may be a cover for a deep-seated inferiority complex. Often, this position denotes a shyness and a decided lack of self-confidence. You respond well to encouragement and appreciation, and you have a need for these to stay your emotionally overeager nature. Overly critical of yourself, you assume that people will judge you harshly and find you lacking. You may feel that people don't like you, for this is a placement that shows much lack of self-esteem. Thus, you tend to pretty much keep your feelings under wraps.[/size]

[size=-1]You have a desire to serve others, but not enough understanding of the other person's feelings. Consequently, you follow your intellect rather than your intuitions in most situations. You have trouble understanding other people's motivations and intentions. Your reactions are often rather cool, deliberate, detailed and analytical. You don't like emotional expressions, because you really don't understand them. Analyzing emotions may occupy a good bit of your time.[/size]

[size=-1]This is not a very sexual position for the Moon for there is an introverted aspect to this placement. Even when your feelings are engaged, your shyness makes it hard for you to be demonstrative with your affections. Instead you express caring by doing things for the people you love, trying to make yourself indispensable to your loved ones so they won't be able to get along without you. Whether in a relationship or not, you enjoy doing things for people and you are at your best when you are able to take care of someone who is needy. You never shy away from such responsibility.[/size]

[size=-1]You do understand reality and practicality, and you react in a very common sense manner, never viewing the world through "rose colored glasses". Mental qualities are emphasized by this position, but the qualities in Virgo are practical and useful. You want what you want, when and how you want it. You don't value learning for learning sake, but for the use and application that can be made of the learning. Temperamental at times, you tend to get picky and argumentative. You are shrewd, with good business sense and meticulous attention to detail. You analyze and criticize all sense impression with care; sometimes you can be quite fussy about minor details.
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[size=-1]In Virgo, Mars focuses its energy into the job, and thus, the energies are primarily practical and useful. This placement will also produce high or at least adequate mental energies, reasonable physical energies, but on the emotional side, there is a severe limit to the energy and the interest.[/size] [size=-1]As one possessing this placement, you are usually considered a very conscientious worker. Much of your energy go into careful planning before you charge ahead on any project. When you do act, it's usually based on practical reasons, with every detail carefully thought out. You are highly critical, and very exacting in all that you do; in many respects, the perfectionist and the organizer. Painstaking and dedicated in your work, you may lack imagination and innovation, but never attention to detail. In the work place, you can be a difficult person because you are so particular about everything being done correctly. But indeed, you are the one that can be depended on to get the job done right.[/size]

[size=-1]Virgo is associated with the health fields. Doctors, surgeons, nurses and social workers often have Mars placed here. There is much associated with this placement that involves helping people. You may be especially concerned with helping the sick and handicapped. You need to feel needed, and you can be very tireless in such a role.[/size]

[size=-1]Mars, the indicator of passions, is not very passionate in Virgo. Your sex drive may be strong, but your willingness to express it can be somewhat weak. Sometimes Mars in Virgo can even be a bit puritanical. You also may be a little bit afraid of letting your passions loose, and even be critical of those that do.[/size]

[size=-1]The negative side of Mars in Virgo may be the sometimes lack of tolerance. It's hard for you to get emotionally worked up over anything, but you can be very demanding of yourself and others. This placement often holds force and aggressiveness in check, releasing it as irritability and nervous habits. And finally, you have to be careful not to become the classic workaholic for this is a real possibility with Mars in Virgo.
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[size=-1]The combination of your Sun sign and your Moon sign blends the emotional forces, powers of will and determination that are native to Scorpio, with the intellectuality, discrimination, and critical analysis of Virgo. This produces keen mental insights and a penetrating awareness of things around you; this includes many conditions that other people usually miss. The scientific method assuring objectivity and detachment is your way. You know how to concentrate mental energies on research or investigation. You need to be careful not to become too absorbed in detail for you are are a person who can sometimes miss the big picture because you are too involved with a piece of the puzzle. You are also prone to be too critical of those with whom you come in contact, and you especially need to be tolerant with friends and loved ones. You may have few really close friends, but people do appreciate the fact that you are always willing to listen attentively and provide wise advice, though it may not be especially deep and sympathetic; you are not one to provide a shoulder to cry on. Avoid setting too high of standards for others to live up to. Sometimes, there may be a need to apply your talent for critical analysis to yourself, in analyzing your own scope for advancement and success. By knowing yourself better, you can assure success in the many businesses and professions that require employment of the scientific methods, persistence, and attention to detail.
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[size=-1]The Mars first house placement intensifies the assertiveness of the personality type described by your Ascendant. With any Ascendant, Mars in the first house increases the vitality, and produces a somewhat more assertive, more outgoing, and more energetic individual.[/size] [size=-1]Your appearance is likely to be robust and muscular and you may be stronger that other members of your family of the same sex. You are always one to be directly involved in affairs; never an idle bystander. This element produces drive and creates more ambition and the aptitude for hard work, with a competitive drive for recognition and acclaim.[/size] [size=-1]This position is usually considered, by traditionalists, to be more desirable for men than for women, because it displays the assertive characteristics associated with males. Females with this placement often have the self-confidence and competitive traits to enter and succeed in male dominated professions.
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