Clandestine Chemist Needs New Synthesis

Hello everybody! Baby Ruth has successfully synthesized Methcathinone and is now looking for more fun research synthesis. For all who is wondering his education, Ruth excelled in high school with chemistry and trigonometry classes under his belt. Now what other synthesis will be feasible for ruth to carry out? mdma is the final desired synthesis ruth wants to perform, but all the recipes look fairly advance.

http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/brightstar.mdma.html seems like the most instructional synthesis on mdma. isn't their a simpler way!?!? like methamphetamine has several easy synthesis, why cant mdma be relatively similar?

and everywhere Ruth looks it seems like SWIY will need thousands of dollars of lab equipment and some degrees in organic chemistry to synthesis lsd. now Ruth is sorry, but he feels like theirs easier underground ways to carry these synthesis out~!

PLUR

 

Have you looked into Mr Shulgin's books? PLENTY of things to get your hands on there!

 

Not really. Meth is simple to make because it is a simple reduction from ephedrine or pseudoephedrine. If MD-ephedrine were available then it could be reduced to MDMA. But it isn't.

 

a simple way to MMDA not MDMA is the iodination of myristicin (from parley leaf oil, up tp 90%) by HI gas created from the reaction of RP/I. using a dry gas generator rig which could be made from otc items.
one could then use the same rig to react NAOH solution with ammonium sulphate to generate NH3 gas to bubble into methanol creating saturated anhydrous ammonia in methanol.
one would mix this with the iodinated myristicin in a sealed vessel and store at room temp for a week. (higher temps will give unwanted side reactions) after the week the total formation of primary amine will be complete.
the main worry with this synth is that you need at least a 10x molar excess of NH3 to iodinated myristicin. also the yeild in comparison to myristicin may be less than 30% the expected yeild. however for its otc-ness and ease who could care less?

^^^OP you seem to be asking to be spoon fed. i'd advise against the use of SWIY/SWIM crap here if you want replies.
the full tech is out there already use your literiture searching skills to find it and go from there.

and yes to attempt any of shulgins work you will need a good deal of funding.
and about your talk of LSD synth, it is a very delicate molecule. i'd reccomend you synth some psyhedelic amps before you even consider it.

 

LSD requires indole as the fundamental molecule to begin with: Good luck finding that one! And if you think a MDMA lab is on the up-and-up price-wise, look at all the gear necessary to synthesize d-lysergic acid diethylamide 25, it's insane. What he said, make Ganesha, FLEA, TCB-2, 2C-B, 2C-B-FLY, DOM, DOC, 3C-AL, or synthetic mescaline to get your toes wet before attempting to synth something from the major leagues. Shulgin's books are a good place to start, but you should have an organic chemistry book handy that explains different chemical reactions. It's obvious you don't have a lot of physical reading material as you seem utterly unware that the methylenedioxy ("MD") in MDMA is a fairly complicated portion of that molecule to synth. It's not quite as difficult as LSD, but it is up there. Hell, synthetic mescaline or 2C-B will throw you curveballs; the synthesis can be downright dangerous, always use more saftey gear than expected and have white vinegar for base spills and baking soda for acid spills and good ventilation (plus a high quality respirator). In fact, good luck finding bromine if you choose to do 2C-B, and like indole, it smells to high heaven so I'd suggest a clandestine arrangement for such endeavors. You don't want neighbors smelling strange chemicals at 2am and getting suspicious. On that note, I'd advise against lots of traffic to and from your place. Also, don't put all your eggs in one basket. Buy your gear/chems/herbs incrementally. Get a pieces at this chem supply co., a few from Amazon, a few from another chem supply company, the herbs from a stand-up, secure entheogen vendor, and if you can, get as many chemicals from hardware stores as possible (just be certain that there aren't adulterants in your chems). Ordering a few chems online shouldn't be an issue, but be wary. One chem, toluene, is used to clean up DMT extract (an unnessesary procedure). Unless you've got an art store nearby, be careful buying that one because TNT uses toluene as a base chem in its production. I'm sure you don't want to wind up on a terrorist watchlist; just be careful and read a LOT.

 

Here's one for you rattlevenom:

http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/safrole.html

SWIM has been researching MDMA synthesis for quite a while and has an extensive collection on the materials to answer many of your questions. This person has a great interest in seeing if the above synthesis is possible. Should you require any added help, I'm sure this person I know would be happy to oblige. Let me know what you think.

 

Methcathinone is just made from epedrine or psuedoephedrine like meth is, the difference being meth is Reduced from the ephedrine and methcathinone is made via Oxidation of Ephedrine...a simple synth, and far from being close to synth. MDMA,2-CB, LSD,etc..you need to study and obtain the proper chemicals and proper lab equipment before trying to make MDMA, it's not as easy as making methamphetamine or methcathinone, they are the easy ones to synth..