Here in the Netherlands it's really rare to have your baby boy circumcized. We believe that with proper cleaning there is nothing 'unhygienic' about having a foreskin (like we don't cut of our ears so we don't have to wash behind them anymore...). I notice that a lot of people in the US just circumcize their kids 'because that's how things are done'... well... did you ever really think of the why? And the risks? 'Cause you are not only making a decision for a child that can not give his own opinion, you are also taking a risk.. one that is very easily to avoid by.. guess what.. just not cutting of parts of the body! Sure the risk is low.. but it's there.. Let's enjoy some educational pictures of a child who's penis got badly infected after being circumcized by a professional pediatrician. Try explaining that to your son when he grows up.... source: http://www.infocirc.org/fourn.htm
OMG Words really do fail me. Thankfully circumcision isn't common in the UK either. It doesn't even occure to most people.
Yeah exactly.. I mean.. I'd never turn down a guy for being cut or whatever.. it wasn't his choice.. but there is absolutely no way that I'm gonna alter the body of a child of mine simply because 'that's the way things are done'..
that is truly horrible... i did not circumcise my son. when he was born, my stepmother said, 'why not? it doesn't hurt them'. and i said, 'pissing on an open wound doesn't hurt??? you can't tell me that. they just can't tell you'...she didn't say anything else. i think it had genuinely never occurred to her! we're american and he's never had a problem--never been made fun of or wished we had done it. he's now 17.
i think circumcision when needed is fine but just done for aesthetics is wrong. like piercing a babys ears before it can talk..... wrong.... giving a baby a tatoo .... WRONG. parhaps deciding that the baby is the wrong sex and giving it a sex change... WRONG its NOT the parents choice when the child has to live with it for ever.
Circ is becoming less common in the USA as it was. But still FAR too many people still do it without thinking. I was working with a little boy who had a bad tongue tie. It needed to be snipped (just the little membrane under the tongue) so that he could nurse properly and also not have speaking problems later. The parents wouldn't do it. "We don't want to hurt him" I asked if the baby was circed. "Of course." The mother replied, looking at me like I was some kind of nut. I explained to her that circ was an unnecceary procedure, and a painful one, about 100 times more painful than Frenulotomy. And the Fren was neccesary for the child to eat and speak. She was SHOCKED. I was SHOCKED that someone could cut 60% of the skin off of a baby's penis without even thinking twice about it, and yet have reservations about a Fren procedure which was needed in this particular baby. She finally had the Fren done, and the child is nursing normally. But his penis will never be healed. Sad stuff.
becouse they are ignorant son of a bitch. but it gets better even after you try to educate them they still go ahead like a fanatical muslim or jew.
A large majority of guys i have been with (and im uk) have had to have it done due to medical reasons. My dad had to have it done too due to medical reasons (but that would have been many many years ago) There are some things medication cant change. so for example with the kid above who couldnt nerse or talk without that op, some guys may not be able to excrete urine because the forskin is too small. (yes it is possible) in occasions like this circumsission is imperrivie to avoid infection. However doing it for thoughtless aesthetics is wrong.
Okay, now I'm worried about having nightmares tonight. That's just terrible. I've seen some gory shit in the hospitals I've worked at, but that takes the cake.
As much as Spliff responds to circ. threads, it leads me to believe he feels self conscious about his uncirced member.
i wouldnt want to purposfully doom someone to life in 21st cen civ......cutting their pee pee or not is kinna small compared to being a prisoner for life in the amerikan empire of genocide n torture .....cut penises work just fine regular ones are gross ....i wouldnt want one
"regular ones are gross".... so the way you are born is gross? Owwwwkay.. well maybe in your case (you must be one ulgy... ok let's not go there).. but the uncut dangly bits I've seen were just lovely, natural and perfect. Plus if an uncut one stands fully erect, the foreskin is completely retracted and stretched anyway so I really don't see what all the fuss is about..
Circing is an unneccesary procedure than can damage normal penis use. It reduces sensation, it can cause infection and scaring (like the pictures shown) and there is NO medical reason to perfom this type of "cosmetic surgery" on an innocent baby. And it is VERY painful. I can't see a single reason to do it. As for the "gross" callers. Some people can't understand ANYTHING out of thier small sphere of life. MOST of the men in the world, for MOST of history were left as God made them. A foreskin wouldn't BE THERE, if it wasn''t neccesary.
We didn't do it to our son.It's frightening how many people do without really understanding the procedure or realizing that it's unneccessary except in extreme cases.When it is for religious reasons I can respect that, but it wasn't the way to go for me.
I will probably have it done to my sons because I'm Jewish and it's an essential part of my culture, however if you're not Jewish then I don't see the point. In fact it kind of makes me mad that so many parents do that to their sons because they think it "looks good" because it really detracts from my culture... but yeah. On the infection, so many little things can cause big problems with infants. My brother had serious infections around his bellybutton that the doctors at first claimed were "normal" until it spread all around his tummy and he had to go to ICU for it. I know several other people who had similar problems. Even something impossible to avoid, such as cutting the umbilical cord, can cause problems, but to me it seems utterly worthless if you aren't Jewish or if you don't plan to raise your child Jewish. But that's just me seeing as how I really don't notice the difference- to me a penis is a penis.
I though we kick you all out of spain long ago . Many jews in Israel are no longer doing circumcision as they getting hip to the damaga done. also the orginal jewish circumcision was just a tiny nip but was later modified to a full circumcision so jews were not to be confused with other "another word a genital branding"
