Circumcision

Discussion in 'Love and Sex' started by tiputipi, Jul 12, 2004.

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  1. tiputipi

    tiputipi Member

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    Circumcision is non-consensual body modification, i.e. mutilation.*


    If it's okay to mutilate someone against their will or without their
    consent, then it must be okay to kill someone (how about removing
    their heart?) If you think it's okay for you to murder people, then
    you must admit that it's okay for others to murder you.

    A far better philosophy is one of unalienable rights. All beings have
    an unalienable right to life and freedom, and that includes freedom
    from mutilation. Unalienable rights are not owed to you by anybody,
    but they should not be violated. The philosophy of unalienable rights
    is a closer representation of the truth than that of war or murder,
    and perhaps as you enter into all truth, you will find your rights
    truly unalienable.

    If everyone refrains from violating the person and property of others,
    the world will remain at peace.

    The line must be drawn somewhere, and we hope the state is not too
    oppressive in its restrictions. Lest we conclude there is no guiding
    light and no philosophy, and that the state merely imposes itself on
    others with no regard. In which case, we must conclude that it is
    okay for us to do the same to the state and that the state is as wrong
    as it claims us to be. Then we must either choose to suffer evils
    while evils are sufferable, or engage the philosophy of "Give me
    Liberty, or give me death" and go to war to free ourselves of
    oppressive bondage.


    *People under 18, and certainly those under 12, cannot consent to
    circumcision and a whole host of other activities.

    Tipu
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  2. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    i totally agree with you man. im proud to say im not circumsized:D
     
  3. makno

    makno Senior Member

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    im totaly thrilled with my circumsized dick ....wouldnt have it any other way !!..
     
  4. peacefuljeffrey

    peacefuljeffrey Senior Member

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    I am torn between both sides. I was circumcised as a baby, yeah, and I DO love my penis that way, but I do have a problem with decisions like that being made by others before I could even be consulted. That's crap! What if they wanted to tattoo my forehead, or split my tongue, or give me female hormones and lop off my dick? What about foot-binding? Is there anything that would make disfiguring a kid for some sort of sick social custom illegal? (In the U.S., I mean. Who gives a fuck about China, that place is so fucked up anyway.)

    Blue skies,
    -Jeffrey
     
  5. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    Yeah, I got snipped as a baby. I guess I'm glad I had it done, but i think they should have gotten my signature or something.
     
  6. Nalencer

    Nalencer Dig Yourself

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    circumcision s genital mutilation, and im glad to say I'm not circumsized
     
  7. smellyhairyhippie

    smellyhairyhippie Member

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    proud to say i am circumsized, plus it is a lot less painful as a baby then as an adult
     
  8. opium_eyes

    opium_eyes Une Canadien Errant

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    think of it this way, every girl i know, won't even go near an un circumsized dick


    it is a little unfair to make that decision for a kid, but it has to be done when they're a baby cause if a man got it his cock wou;dn't stop bleeding and he'd die
     
  9. smellyhairyhippie

    smellyhairyhippie Member

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    no, i know some people who have had it done later in life and they didn't die. its just foreskin, not like an artery runs through it
     
  10. opium_eyes

    opium_eyes Une Canadien Errant

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    well it would be an extreme case.

    but i suppose it depends on what age they get it done, and obviously how much blood is lost. how old were they whne they got circumsized? ahah and why?
     
  11. smellyhairyhippie

    smellyhairyhippie Member

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    in their 30's i think, but i dont remember why, i think they converted to judiasm but im not sure
     
  12. backtothelab

    backtothelab Senior Member

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    Are you guys serious? I mean, really, it's not some big conspiracy against you, it's tradition. Your parents did'nt sit around and brainstorm how to get one over you, they just did it. I can understand something like getting to whole thing cut off and giving you hormones to turn you into a woman, but it getting your foreskin cut off. It is'nt a big life changing decision. It's like someone getting their child's ear pierced. They did'nt consent to it, but shit, it's just a little ear ring. I'm circumcised. I wish I was'nt, but I am, so screw it. I'm not gonna kick up dust about it.
     
  13. opticalpromise

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    i heard that for women an uncircumsized penis feels much much better during sex than a circumsized one.,, for men circumsion is supposed to decrease sensistivity... but a circumsize penis is more hygenic or at least easier to keep clean
     
  14. underground04

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    :cool: AAALLLLLLLLLRRRIIIIIIIIIIGGGGHTTTT:cool:

    sigh, goddamnit
     
  15. dangermoose

    dangermoose Is a daddy

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    little red riding hood:
    "oh grandma, what sweeping generalizations you have!"

    grandma:
    "all the better to stereotype you with"


    aaaanyways. i was circumsiced by choice. yes CHOICE, at the age of 14. my dick was SO BIG it wouldnt fit out of the skin anytime i got wood. so i got it chopped off (for free, courtesy of the canadian medical system) and now not only do not get urinary tract infections, but i don't have clean out that gunky slime under the head of the penis anymore. and you know what the best part was? despite one user predictions, i didnt bleed to death.

    anyways what about baptising babies? they never chose that religion, don't u think that's unfair?
     
  16. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    Ouch... 14.. did it hurt?

    And um.. yes I think baptising babies without their consent is wrong.
     
  17. FreakyJoeMan

    FreakyJoeMan 100% Batshit Insane

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    Heh, my parents were against it, but my mom saw a vid of a babe gettin his winkie wacked, and that did it fer her. I ain't mutilated
     
  18. Ocean Byrd

    Ocean Byrd Artificial Energy

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    I was circumsized soon after birth; wish I hadn't been. Foreskin = more pleasure, wish I could have at least decided whether or not I wanted to be circumsized. I mean, it's not like you can't get it done when you're 18 or even older...
     
  19. dangermoose

    dangermoose Is a daddy

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    lol, did it hurt?.....i dunno...do you breath air?

    heh, yea, you could certianly say it hurt. but im glad i got it done, masturbating is way better with the skin off...just not immediately after.
     
  20. jay

    jay Member

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    That gunky slime is left over from when youve masterbated and not cleaned it proprerly. Now im not a clean freak, but its farely easy to keep that to a minimal.

    And as for your dick being to big. the size of the fore skin diffres from person to person and having your penis come out when hard dose not mean its to big.


    One questions to those say they wish they haddent been. Why is that. besides wanting it to be your choice ect

    I find at sometimes it can be a pain but want to keep my body all intact and as is, cause there is no going back

    As to why its a pain, One Ex. during sex you have to options, Pull back the skin and put on condom, this dose feel very good but not so great for a marathon night of lovemaking. the other option, Dont pull it back and have less feeling give you in effect greater endurance though most the times i do this the condom end up breaking. I dont know if it is beacause of a more vigorus humping or maybe other reasons with the skin not pulled back.
     
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