cinnamyledine bis-lysergamide

I have not yet found a method for this, but combining LSA from morning glory seeds is supposed to create a "theoretical lysergamide" that comes on in 5 minutes, peaks at 30 minutes and gradually finishes at about 4 hours.
I've had two failed experiments and one partial success: my first batch was almost impossioble to filter because I used water only and it formed an emulsion. I added some everclear to this emulsion. I also did not have any cinnamon bark oil, (don't use cinnasmon leaf oil which is mostly eugenol, use cinnamon bark oil which is mostly cinnamonaldehyde) so I macerated a piece of cinnamon bark and soaked it in everclear for a few hours.
I used this, 1 tablespoon of mg seeds, and water acidified with DL tartaric acid. This stuff filled 2/3rds of a mason jar. After adding the ethanol and shaking it, the emultion gradually became thicker on the bottom, leaving a distinct ethanol layer on top, about an inch from the top. I used a eye dropper to collect this ethanol layer and drank it.
Indeed by 5 minutes I felt it coming on. It al;so peaked at 30 minutes and by this time produced strong euphoria, similar to my best LSA experience (which was probably LSH because the seeds were fresh-- this was in 1983 or 84) Was about like a hit of acid(and I only drank from the top layer)
It was not a "full dose" and the visuals were mild. Additionally, after about 10 minutes peaking it abruptly ended, leaving a few hours of afterglow with periods of increased effect.
However, it was only a fraction of my original dose, which was too much (cinnamyledine bis-lysergamide is twice as strong as LSA so I should have started with half a tablespoon or two teaspoons.
It did produce vasocontriction, and I felt chills on my skin like I was going to get ergotism, so I think even the top layer had the undesirable ergotamides.

A subsequent attempt with a cold water extraction failed, so I think it needs ethanol in order for the cinnamaldehyde and the LSA to be miscable and thus react.
Another attempt tonight, using ethanol and several drops of cinnamon bark essential oil. Here is the tech I'm trying to duplicate:
Nature's Herb Forum-LSA + Cinnamaldehyde (cinnamon essential oil)

Niether LSC nor LSA are illegal in my state and we are also a "legal for religious purposes" psychedelic state, so I have nothing to hide from the authorities. A bluelight forums thread on this claims it is placebo, but what I experienced was certainly not, and I should not have felt anything from such a low dose if it had remained LSA, so I'm gonna say partial success. Will post my progress here.

 

only some slight lsa physical sensations. Could be it didn't work, could be tollerence? Like if you take mushrooms the next day? I'm convinced my first btch had a pronounced effect. ging to wait a few days, then try the batch of sherry/peppermint oil I concocted yesterday.

 

will try a little splash of acetic acid next time as per the detailed extraction for LSH from the Shroomery.

 

got it to work! PERFECTLY.

 

20 ml everclear 80 ml distilled water 1/8th teaspoon of DL Tarteric acid (forms salts of lysergimides, making them stable). Chill in fridge until it starts to congeal. Take it out, put it in a cold fridge.
In the dark with a red lamp grind 2 slightly rounded tablespoons of Heavenly Blue MGS to a fine powder. Bring your chilled water in the dark, add your seed powder agitate vigorously for about five minutes, put back in fridge, maybe in the freezer. Return to shake every 15 minutes. After about an hour filter with (yes, this is the best home department filter to use) a WIRE COFFEE FILTER.
Pour this is a jar and return it to the fridge to let the solids on the bottom settle. Carefully decant after about an hour, leaving a tablespoon of solids behind. or however much it ends up being. Into this add fresh ground cinnamon bark and get this ICE COLD. You're going to shake the shit out of this for a long time and keep it cold in the freezer*
Do this for as long as you can stand, let it settle and decant carefully again in case of remaining solids. I usually do this fasted, and I was about to break a two day fast before doing this. I was not baseline. I had cannabis tincture and gabapentin as well.
This was SO MUCH BETTER than the failed experiment that did give me a pretty brief and problematic trip. There was a quick onset, great peak and good comedown. Felt very, very speedy getting me rather spun. Very much an MDMA feel. Slight visuals, but not as much as the first attempt and partial success. This is supposed to be a very stable aldehyde adduct and therefore it has... (not criminal intention meant) shelf life. I have not tested this yet.
Cumin and peppermint are all also supposed to work with this method.
Very simple home chemistry yielding a really sensual, delightful, rolling feeling-- but some of that was probably the cannabis and gaba.

*I think the best thing to do at this point is to add ice and shake the shit out of it, one post I read about this method says they do that. I think that will be the way to go.

 

Thanks