child sex abuse at the heart of our societies

i'm so angry about the sexual abuse of children which goes to the very heart of the elite in this world, and i'm even more angry at their ability/seemingly successful attempts to cover it all up... i want to do something but i don't know what to do as i am still effected/disempowered by my own abuse... i post links online etc but feel useless... i go to the courts here too (regarding Hollie Greig) when i can, but it just breaks my heart and i feel even more disempowered...

now with all the revelations regarding Jimmy SaVILE (which i've known for years) and all the stuff that is coming out regarding the BBC and Lord McAlpine etc, i just feel frozen... stuck... tearful... enraged... murderous

ideas anyone?

 

Keep drawing attention to the problem at every opportunity and every example - and use every opportunity to explain the lasting harm that it causes. That's the best you can do. People have short memories - remind them.

 

feels like i spent my whole life drawing attention to it, with friends and family etc... no one listened... they just thought me mad etc... can't tell if i'm doing too much of it, or not enough... maybe you are right and i should just throw myself completely into it, now that the veil is lifting, rather than doing what i want to do, which is to run away... maybe i have run away for now and that's why i'm depressed... i don't do it on forums so much... maybe i should do it more on forums... i tend to focus more on just being silly here, in general, although i do touch on stuff... not sure i could handle the complete immersion... i'm so feckin depressed atm, it might send me over the edge... sorry, just kinda babbling... feeling stuck... but you have kick-started my thinking processes on the matter jamgrassphan... thanks :2thumbsup:

 

LilyAlly, maybe you could do something toward programs to educate parents and children about prevention - about how to protect - how to tell - etc.

Being angry once it has happened is one thing but educating to prevent it would be awesome.

I remember one of my kids or grandkids coming home and saying they'd been taught to never let anyone touch you anywhere that your swimsuit covers. That's something kids can remember.

 

If you can find it. Watch George Carlin's solution for child abusers.

I find it funny. Funny and TRUE.

 

The elite? Shit is far more common amongst the ordinary everyday households out there in suburbia.

Trying to make out it is one particular group, such as the "elite" is part of that coverup process. Too successful with that kind of sentiment, and you'll have everyone thinking it only happens with the rich and powerful, thus overlooking everyone else

With jimmy saville, a whole lot of tuff talk, but no one did anything, all those nurses and carers telling the kids just to hide under covers, never did anything, not one of those dads cut his nuts off or beat the fuck out of him.

Its ordinary everyday people, doing nothing. What happens most of the time is the parents will tell the kid to keep quiet cos they are more worried about reputation, than if the kid is being molested, which is what really messes the kid up

 

It's not talked about enough. There aren't enough prevention methods being discussed, but also I think creative ways of showing what's going on is important. People kinda need to yanked out of their seats to notice what's happening at their feet sometimes.

Also, so many people have a history of abuse they'd like to not remember, I think that keeps a lot of people from paying attention to other people being abused, they have yet to release their own truth regarding the matter.

 

The Australian government has just announced a Royal Commission into child abuse. It is estimated to take at least 2 years. I suspect it will involve thousands of people giving evidence. We don't yet know who the commissioner/s are, but it is a good start provided our society can look at the institutions that have sanctioned, if not facilitated, this horrid conduct and be critical of them.

 

All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.....

 

I don't think this issue is talked about enough. I have a repressed memory that I feel has to do with child sex abuse..but prior to this realization I heard NOTHING about child sex abuse. It definitely isn't a widely discussed or recognized issue.

 

The thing that really doesn't get talked enough about in my opinion is the life long psychological damage that can result from child sex abuse and how that damage can have a lasting effect in potentially every interaction and relationship with other human beings for the rest of his/her life. The thing that really makes me sick here in the U.S., is that several times a year it seems, some young, female pedophile school teacher gets caught molesting a teenage boy or boys, and she gets a slap on a wrist - as if it's somehow less damaging than if it was a man perpetrating the crime. So culturally, here, when a woman is a pedophile we call it "innappropriate", but when a man is a pedophile he's rightfully called a "predator" - even though both examples are equally predatory in nature.

I personally think that the number of female sexual predators is grossly underestimated, and I suspect that it will eventually come to light that there are just as many female pedophiles as male pedophiles, but because they are often given positions of blind trust with regard to children that it goes undetected and under reported, or, as in the case of the epidemic of high school teachers molesting their teen students, and claiming to be "in love" with them, here in the U.S. - it's treated with a kind of cavalier attitude, instead of being regarded as the dangerous and predatory behavior it actually is.

 

elite? seriously? it is way more common between normal low-medium class people. You can't do much about it, you can't monitor everyone on every step. Theres huge number of parents doing this to their own kids. How can you prevent it?

 

yes, would be a good thing to focus on... problem is, that sometimes it matters not if a child would let them or not... they can just take it, and they do... ofcourse it is more complicated than that... then there is the society we live in which seems to sexualize children far too early... they (the elite) are trying to reduce the age of consent to four years old!

then there are vulnerable children, in care, who (since 2009 and thanks to Jack fuckin Straw) are not allowed, by LAW to accuse their abusers... amazing huh? but yes, it is something i am working on and will continue to do so...

been looking but can't find it... will keep looking... :2thumbsup:

i wasn't making out it was/is ONLY the elite... it is everywhere! it goes to the very HEART of our societies... unfortunately, it is the elite who are making and changing the laws that will eventually make it all quite normal... you just watch 'em... it filters down... infecting everything...

i know... it is such a taboo subject and people don't like to feel vulnerable... even when they do speak up, there are just not the facilities, knowledge to deal with it... not in the mainstream anyhow...

unfortunately, it is probably the Royals too, or atleast some of them... i don't trust these Royal Commissions... we need real people to deal with this... but real people tend not to be allowed into positions where they can make a difference...

yup... good quote

yes indeed... a common experience :grouphug:

cant argue with that jamgrassphan, other than to postulate that i don't think it is as many women who are child molesters, but i think it is definitely on the increase... i also think it is harder for men to come to terms with it too, particularly if abused by a woman, because of the macho attitude that dingbat men have.. ie... "what you mean you didn't enjoy it???" it's dense innit...

 

no, you are wrong... did you know that the pentagon has something like 5200 employees who downloaded child pornography in 2006 i think it was...
it is rampant EVERYWHERE! and there is a lot that can be done, but we have to start talking about it more and protesting properly about it... bringing the truth to light...

i don't think we will ever prevent it, but we can do more than is currently being done... just look at how the mainstream media use it... etc etc etc...

 

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