i have done salvia many of times, and every time ive done it ive smoked it. ive known for awhile that you can chew salvia, but ive never actually tried it. i heard it gives you a better chance to go explore "salvia world". can anyone give me a heads up on what its like compared to smoking?
I've tryed it twice with regular dried leaves and chewed for like 20-30 minutes and both times it didn't really do anything, and I didn't swallow any spit either until 20-30 minutes had gone by. I think maybe they have to be fresh I dunno.
Nah man chewing Salvia sucks. Dont wate your time. I've tried it a couple times, and it doesnt do much. You feel slightly weird for a few mins, but that may be placebo, idk. I would advise you stay away from the tincture, and leaf... both methods suck.
wow really...."nah man chewing salvia sucks...don't waste your time..". hmmmm last time i checked, salvia has been chewed for hundreds upon hundreds of years by the mazatec people, and it's even speculated that as far back as the aztecs salvia was being used. so all those people had no idea what they were doing, it was all just placebo for hundreds of years. how about NOOO!!! ok, now that that's out of the way, back to how to chew leaves. it is a huge misconception that using the oral method of ingestion does not work. when chewing leaves, there are a few things that you can do to make the experience work better. washing your mouth out with listerine is good and gently brushing your gums and underneath your tongue is also good. when chewing leaves, the chemical gets absorbed primarily through the saliva glands underneath the tongue. and also if the saliva/salvia mix that is being retained in the mouth is swished around, there is more of a chance of it being absorbed. now there are a couple of different methods that can be used, the traditional method and the quid method. the traditional method, which has been used for hundreds of years like i said, works the best with fresh leaves. it requires many more leaves than the quid method. usually the mazatec would take 13 pairs of leaves (26 leaves total) and slowly take a bite, chew well, and swallow. the mazatec didn't even know how ingenious this was, because since they are not retaining the fluid in their mouth and just swallowing, it is absorbed mostly at the very very back of the mouth. i believe this is called pharyngeal absorbtion. anyway, the traditional method does work, but really does require fresh leaves because chewing 26 dried leaves of medium to large size would make for a nasty mess of broken up bits getting stuck in your teeth and shit...it's just not that fun. using fresh leaves would be like eating a bunch of lettuce or something, except its a much more bitter and psychoactive lettuce . Now the quid method is much easier and can be done with dried leaves, though fresh leaves really is the shiznit and will work the best. this requires much less leaves, for dried leaves the dosage range is usually 2-10 grams, and for fresh leaves, i've heard of people getting effects from 4 large leaves, but as a dosage guideline, probably 3-10 or more fresh leaves depending on how strong the effects you want. you can always use more, 10 leaves is by no means a maximum, as everyone reacts differently. when using dried leaves, the best thing to do is rehydrate them so that they are not dry and brittle. put the amount of leaves that you will use in a bowl and submerge them in water for around 10-15 mins. after that they should feel more like fresh leaves. how you prepare them is to roll them up into a ball or a cigar, you might have to make a couple as it's gonna be hard to fit a lot of leaves and spit in your mouth at the same time. put the ball or cigar in your mouth and and start chewing thoroughly while in between chews holding it under your tongue to absorb sublingually. you can also use the quid method and use pharyngeal absorbtion, let the saliva/salvia mix swish around at the back of your mouth and just very very slowly, take little swallows of the saliva/salvia mix. this reportedly stronger than sublingually (under the tongue). now as for the effects, it is a much more relaxing way of getting into the experience. instead of being rocketed out of this universe in a matter of 30 secs, you have usually 15-30 min before the effects become apparent and then you start climbing to the top. don't get upset if you don't feel anything at 15 min of chewing, just be patient as the goddess works her magic. now be aware that it can and will be as intense as a smoked salvia experience, but since the way up is slower, it can be easier to handle it as you have a longer period of consiousness where you can feel the effects climbing before ego loss occurs. when smoked, your ego is more or less instantly ripped out and you have very little time to understand what is going on. most of all, have patience and enjoy what salvia has to show you. i feel that chewing leaves is the best method, it is the original tested and proven so to say method. you should go to erowid.org and do an advance search of salvia trip reports, and choose the "buccal" option under method. that will give you a list of all the quid method reports. also on sagewisdom.org, daniel siebert has some first hand acounts of peoples experiences from the mazatec region. good luck, learn, and have fun!!!! peace, steven
oh, if the bitterness gets to you, you can put a sweetener like stevia or some atrificial sweetener, or honey, or something to make it easier to handle. i actually like the taste hehehe. also, when using the quid method, chew each ball or cigar for 15-30 min. if using multiple balls 15 min each should be cool.
no problem. salvia is a greatly misunderstood entheogen that is being misused and abused and getting a bad reputation because of it. enjoy!!
This was three years ago. I chewed the salvia. It gave a moderately strong surreal dreamy type salvia trip. It lasted a lot longer then when smoked, full effects for about 30 minutes and lingering after effects for about another hour. Good times!! Taste horrible, but really a much more pleasant way of doing salvia.
Well i tried it, 2 leafs and a bit of vodka. Got no visuals or sounds at all. Yet did feel warm and relaxed. Seems like i might need to take a substantial amount to get a breakthrough that comes with visuals
Seems you need at least 50 to 100 leafs ( if you have no reverse tolerance ) to get significant results compared to extract ( based on mazatecs intake )
I'd like to try chewing it. I smoked it one time and one time was enough. The effect was much more intense than lsd, shrooms, or peyote. It was one of the only bad trips that I have ever had. Good thing it only lasted for five minutes. I can now say that I have been sucked out into the universe and thought I was never going to come back. Salvia can be a fun drug if used correctly but this boy ain't never gonna do it again.
