Chemtrails: Culling the Useless Eater Population

Discussion in 'Paranoid?' started by Pressed_Rat, May 30, 2004.

  1. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    By Anonymous

    So, you haven't yet figured out the airborne conditioning-agent release program that is being operated by the government. I'll give you some hints, but first I'll give you a little information about myself.

    I'm a retired government scientist with an advanced degree in one of the health-related disciplines. I do not use my real name for fear of retaliation, either against me, or against members of my family. I always try to route my e-mail communications so that they appear to come from another source, usually from one somewhere within the government. Sometimes I use the internet resources of the public library - whatever it takes to hide my true identity and confuse those who don't want the sort of information I possess to fall into the public's hands.

    I have a small circle of friends who are, or were, in key positions within our military and several government agencies. These are not the very top level personnel, but mid to upper mid-level people, scientists and analysts, who are in positions where they can see the day-to-day activities of what's going on, who are charged with implementing the details, but who are never quite privy to the schemes behind the work they do. Each of my contacts has been able to supply me with a portion of the puzzle, but separately, none of them understands the whole story. I'll tell you what I've pieced together so far. But I have to admit that this information frightens me because there is no place I can go with it. What am I supposed to do - write my congressman? I believe that would be like signing my own death warrant.

    This whole chemtrail issue is related to the plan for decreasing the world population to around 450-500 million -- and starting with the US first. Why? The people of the US are the only ones with even the remotest chance of stopping this. That is, if they knew about it. That's why the US has to be the first to go. You have to understand that the world's elite covet the US for its geographic diversity - and they would love to return this country to its condition as it existed prior to Columbus setting foot here, but without the Native Americans this time of course.

    You may have already heard how several national parks have been designated as world biospheres - that's the plan for all of North America, a giant nature park and playground that will be devoid of annoying human beings (that would be us). And the people actually involved in doing the spraying, as well as those who will take part in the rest of the plans, are being duped into believing they will be spared, that is, permitted to live and remain on this continent as administrators and caretakers of this vast nature preserve. I understand that about 150 to 200 thousand people are projected as necessary for maintenance purposes. But it's likely these people will not be Americans. Those in charge wouldn't want to risk the possibility of some sort of revolt, so the workers will probably be brought in from Europe and Asia.

    There are rumors floating about the internet that the chemtrails are part of some sort of secret program the government is doing to protect the US from future biological attacks. Nothing could be further from the truth. The plan is to sensitize, or condition, the US population to being wiped out by influenza A. Over the past few years, people have been encouraged to get flu shots to protect them against the generally non-lethal strains that circulate through the population during flu season.

    Each year the US government has guessed which strains were most likely to spread. They seem to always guess right - don't they?

    This flu season, the government protected people with a trivalent vaccine that included the A/Beijing/262/95-like (H1N1) and the A/Sydney/5/97-like (H3N2). It also contained the B/Beijing/184/93-like hemagglutinin antigens.

    For those not familiar with virology, the H and N refer to proteins on the outside of the virus, the hemagglutinin and neuraminidase,which are responsible for the virus attaching to, and then invading, a host cell. The public has been quite pleased with the success of the vaccines offered so far. But that will change in the future.

    Researchers at the US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (or USAMRIID) at Fort Detrick in Frederick MD have econstructed and modified the H1N1 Spanish Flu virus, making it far more deadly than it ever was back when it was responsible for the 1918-1919 flu pandemic that killed over 20 million worldwide and over 500,000 here in the US. Consider that it could have killed many more, but back then, people couldn't hop on a jet and travel from New York to L.A. in five hours. Now, our ability to travel will increase the spread and will be our downfall.

    The flu vaccines contain killed virus and protect the body well against challenge by that particular strain, but work poorly against other strains not included in the inoculation. At some point, the vaccine stockpile will include the more lethal modification of the 1918 H1N1 in its live form.

    Most people receiving this vaccine will simply be renewing their annual flu shot, and the vaccine will still include the inactivated version of the more benign form of H1N1 (as was included in this year's vaccine).

    The presence of the milder strain in the inoculum will slow down the
    progression of the more lethal H1N1 form, so people will become sick more slowly - but they will still eventually die. It will just take a few weeks longer.

    In the meantime, they will be carriers for the lethal form of the virus, passing it on to everyone with whom they make contact. And as people hear that others are dropping dead from the flu, they will flock to get their own vaccination. And the entire population will be more receptive to infection because their lungs will have been pre-conditioned to guarantee it.

    If you will remember back to 1968 and '69, the Hong Kong flu, which was influenza A type H3N2, killed over 30,000 people in the U.S. alone. That was a fortuitous learning event for some because it taught them that the flu could still conceivably be used to wipe out a population. But at the same time, it pointed out the need to precondition the populace so that those who might normally be resistant could be rendered susceptible. Hence the development of the vaccine program and the aerial spraying procedures to condition the population.

    The purpose of the chemicals in the chemtrails is to help the viral envelope fuse with lung cells, permitting easier penetration and infection.

    But what about those few individuals who don't succumb to the flu? Probability alone demands that there will be some who survive - pockets of the population that are either not reached or somehow (and this is less likely) are resistant to the lethal H1N1 strain. At this point you must also remember that our military personnel have been immunized against a variety of pathogens, including the anthrax bacillus.

    For those geographically isolated areas where the flu doesn't do its job, it's a fairly simple matter to lay down anthrax spores and then send in what's left of the military to take care of anyone still breathing.

    The anthrax spraying will probably come under the guise of a flu protection program to save those still alive after the epidemic. And the military, having been exposed to civilians with the flu, will eagerly await their own flu shots.

    I should emphasize that this is a last resort scenario. Those orchestrating the plan will not want to use anthrax until all other possibilities are exhausted - this because of the long-term viability of anthrax spores. To scatter them over the countryside would mean the area would be dangerous for use by humans, at least those not vaccinated against the bacteria.

    And think about this for a moment. Why do you suppose agencies like Fish and Wildlife are so eager to reintroduce wolves and other species into areas of the country which haven't seen these animals for generations. It's all part of the plan to restore this land to what the elite envision as its early paradise-like state, with wild animals freely roaming the uninhabited plains and forests. Granted, it will take some time to clean up the place and to maybe destroy a lot of small towns that might otherwise be considered a blight on the landscape. But for the global elite it will be a small price for us to pay for their enjoyment.


    http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=42&contentid=206&page=2
     
  2. nimh

    nimh ~foodie~

    did you post that because you agree with what he's saying? and if it's true, then what the hell am i supposed to do about it?
     
  3. HappyHaHaGirl

    HappyHaHaGirl *HipForums Princess*

    Why do you do this to me, Rat?? I'm getting so afraid... :(
     
  4. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

  5. HappyHaHaGirl

    HappyHaHaGirl *HipForums Princess*

    I feel a little better....but there's always that chance.... Mel Gibson was right in Conspiracy Theory.... and he's crazier than Matt.... :D
     
  6. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    So because of what one person says, that means they don't exist?

    Sorry, but I believe they do exist - maybe not for population control, but perhaps weather modification. I feel something is going on that the government is not telling us (among many other things).

    I don't know if you've ever heard of George Noory or Art Bell, but they host a late-night talkshow on the radio where chemtrails are a frequent topic of discussion. Several people have been on the show, ranging from scientists to former military pilots, and all have reported similar things. Of course you have to take such things with a grain of salt, but from the reading I have done, I am still suspicious.

    I have no qualms about you not believing in the existence of chemtrails, but just because YOU don't believe in them doesn't necessarily make it bullshit. Please, stop exuding such arrogance all the time. It seems like there is a core of about five people on this site who think they own this site because they are buddy-buddy with the administrator and have moderator privileges.
     
  7. mimosa

    mimosa Banned

    "You have to understand that the world's elite covet the US for its geographic diversity - and they would love to return this country to its condition as it existed prior to Columbus setting foot here,"

    This is the sentence that doesn't ring true with me. Since when does anyone in power care about the environment? there's no money in it.
     
  8. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

    OK, Rat.

    First off, the obvious. Contrails behind high-altitude aircraft obviously exist. A look into the sky near any large airport will prove this. It is the COMPOSITION of these trails that is in question here. Can you link to a reputable site (hint: "Conspiracy Planet" doesn't fall into this category! :)) where anyone has actually collected SAMPLES from any of the alleged "chemtrails", and had them analyzed (by a real laboratory) to PROVE the existence of mind control agents, environmental modification agents, pathogens, or anything else of a nefarious nature?

    A basic principle of scientific inquiry is that the non-existence of something can NEVER be proven. But the EXISTENCE of something certainly can. So where's the PROOF? Not conspiracy theories, ravings on Art Bell's show (which, BTW, is great ENTERTAINMENT, but not exactly an information source I would bank on), or paranoid guesswork by the "Black Helicopter" crowd. How about showing us some hard, scientific DATA showing anything that can't be explained by the physical phenomena that produce garden variety contrails. Proving the "chemtrail" allegations would be as simple as gathering some samples with a balloon or plane, and running a few lab tests. That, and somebody is in line for a freaking Pulitzer prize! But since it hasn't been done, despite these stories going on for YEARS, I guess that means that every scientist and journalist is in on the conspiracy, right? :)

    Ever heard of Occam's Razor? Use it.

    And as far as "exuding arrogance" goes, the old saying about glass houses and throwing stones comes to mind immediately. Have you EVER actually listened to yourself critique and eviscerate others on here about their tastes in music, beer, politics, or lifestyle??? Mr. Pot, I'm the kettle, and you're FAR BLACKER than I am......


    :)
     
  9. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

    Oh, gee... I guess you're right. I surrender.

    Of course I know that not all contrail-like formations seen in the sky are necessarily chemtrails. I am not a freakin' stooge. And I am not going to waste my time on arguing if chemtrails really exist or not, because there is a wealth of information out there for anyone that wants to read about it. I could debate about it for hours and not get anywhere. But the thing is, I never necessarily said that chemtrails definitely exist. I never said it was a fact they exist. Just because I posted this doesn't mean I necessarily agree with it. I posted it so I could see what other people have to say about it. All you had to say about it is that it is BS, coupled with yet more information derived directly from a website you find to be reputable.

    As far as arrogance is concerned, I admit that I can be arrogant. But, then again, many of the people in these forums who actually know me understand that is simply the way I write. And I challenge you to find one post where I attack any member of these forums because of the music they listen to, or because of their lifestyle or political views. THAT, my friend, is all a product of YOUR imagination.

    You and Skip seem to have this fucked up notion that I attack people. You both think you know so much about me, but you don't. I HAVE changed in the almost five years I've been here, too. All I ever do, and have ever done, is say what I truly feel. If people want to take that as me being arrogant or whatever, I couldn't care less. I admit that I am an asshole, but I don't try to hide it, either, like some people.

    I agree, Ellis, I am arrogant. But I do present a human side which extends beyond a textbook knowledge of a particular subject.

    We all know you're a smart guy.
     
  10. FireQuint

    FireQuint Member

    I'm completely skeptical. If there was a way to affect a mass amount of people by any means, chemtrails would be my first choice to do so.

    And also, just because something is "debunked" doesn't mean that the debunking theory cannot be debunked [​IMG]
     
  11. Bee_Rain

    Bee_Rain ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

    I heard that the government finally came clean recently and said the chem trails were actually a chemical designed to repair (yeah right) the ozone.
     
  12. nimh

    nimh ~foodie~

    chemtrails are definitely real. just look up.

    i was under the impression that the 'repair the ozone/provide sunscreen' thing was propaganda put out by the gov to cover up the real reason for the chemtrails...whatever THAT may be.


    if someone can debunk this link i'd like to see the arguement behind it:


    [size=+3]CHEMTRAIL SUNSCREEN[/size]

    [size=+3]TAUGHT IN US SCHOOLS:[/size]

    http://www.willthomas.net/Chemtrails/Articles/Chemtrails_In_US_Schools.htm
     
  13. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

    The article does a pretty good job of "debunking" by itself, no?

    The 2 examples given by the article are "global dimming" caused by particulates in the atmosphere, and an experimental attempt at seeding the oceans with iron salts to increase plankton growth (and thereby absorb CO2 and reverse global warming). NEITHER of these fit the profile of the "chemtrails" that are being discussed here.

    Particulate emissions are simply part the exhaust from jet engines (as well as car exhaust, power plants, and just about anything else that burns). Depending on operating conditions, the levels may be higher or lower than average, but they are always there, and always have been. This is not something that is deliberately added for a nefarious purpose. Particulates in the atmosphere can be explained by looking at our industrial and transport systems, with no need to rely on a conspiracy to spray harmful chemicals.

    The "IronEX" experiment in question was conducted out over the ocean, not over populated land masses, and, IIRC, the seeding was done from a SHIP, not from aircraft. The experiment was also a matter of public record, with scientists weighing in on both sides before and after the experiment was carried out. There have been several of these experiments, with mixed results. And project information is publically available, at sites such as:

    http://www.bbm.me.uk/FeFert/index.htm

    http://www.palomar.edu/oceanography/iron.htm

    Probably ill-advised, potentially more harmful than helpful, and seemingly another example of mankind trying to CONTROL nature rather than live WITH it, but hardly the stuff of a global conspiracy, now is it?
     

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