I would like to know some facts on Chavez. I just watched a story about some guy from the 700 club calling for the US to assassinate Chavez. The US said this was not their position. The story went on to explain how Chavez and Castro are trying to build a latin America free of American/International influence. Recently I watched a documentary called "The Take" about Argentina's worker revolution. Part of this doc. explained the harms that the IMF is inflicting on the citizens of South America. So why is some over-religious fuck so threatened by someone who wants their part of the world left alone?
I really, really, really hate Chavez. I don't feel like going into all the reasons why I hate him, but mainly because he has done nothing to help his people. Food prices have shot up, he's not providing national defense against the Colombian guerillas who have invaded.. it's just a sticky situation. I would like to assasinate him if I could... But Pat Robertson or whatever his name is was just out of line. He said something to the effect of that Chavez is spreading a Muslim influence. WTF? Because Venezuela isn't Catholic or anything. He has no basis for his views on Venezuela other than one based off of his own deluded principals.
I've heard this guy once suggested using nuclear bombs against the US state department, and also claimed that feminism is destroying capitalism, among other things. Not only that, but he ran as a Presidential candidate in the 80's (or so I've heard). Why don't you go through those reasons? Maybe we could get a clearer picture of the situation if both parties are open? A central question: Is it Chavez fault, or is it because of foreign/domestic influence that he cannot control? Far as I know, Chavez is not the one setting the prices. The corporations and the wealthy does. Also, I think, another central question: Have the wages increased proportionally to the increase in food prices? Invaded? Anywho, Chavez is strengthening the military defense. Doing so will strenghten the patrol of Venezuelan borders, don't you think? You are 17. And you do know that he is a democratically elected leader? Do you hate democracy?
I started to research this a bit. Eventually I came across this story from an investigative journalist. I've never heard of him, but what he says about Cynthia McKinney is dead on, so I know he can't be that untruthful. http://www.alternet.org/story/16255/ What he says about Chavez's Venezula seems to fall right into place with the documentary I saw about Argentina. The brown people are basically starting a revolution against the oppresive white people and the international corporations that they represent which destroy their livelihood for profit. And the Americans don't like revolutions very much. Why do you hate him again?
Chavez is a great guy. He's done so much for his countries working class, and has really pissed off the bourgoisee D) and has done well in buying back venezualas privatised industry. I think the figure is he's been elected 9 times in the last six years? anyhoo, great guy, setting up a working model for countries accross the world.
I like this article too: http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0817-01.htm A quote: "Infuriated by their loss of power, the elite have used their control over the media to blast Chavez for destroying the economy, cozying up to Fidel Castro, antagonizing the US government, expropriating private property, and governing through dictatorial rule. They also accuse Chavez of using the social programs that have so improved the lives of the poor as a way to gain voters. In this, the opposition is right: providing people with free health care, education, small business loans and job training is certainly a good way to win the hearts and minds of the people."
So on the first 4 pages of a google.ca search of Hugo Chavez, the only negative article about him was one in which Condoleeza Rice disapproves of his re-instatement into office, quoting false information to back her claim. I already know Condoleeza Rice is a liar. So SilverClover14, where is your evidence of him doing all these nasty things to the country?
because he wants venezuala's tea, as in oil, as in what's in the ground, as in their oil, as in, well, it's self explanatory.
well addressed communism, i'd say what i always say - politicians are a different breed, not ever human-friendly
Chavez & Castro represent threats to the US way of life, or so they say. If communist socialism can survive AND prosper in the Latin America, then they represent alternatives to the political models that favor the wealthy. Of course with the price of oil continuing to rise, Chavez' Venezuela could actually prosper under communism, something the US has always sought to prevent. That's why Cubans live in near poverty, because the US refuses to trade with Castro and the embargo with Cuba's closest neighbor and the beligerence of the US towards the communist state. See if Chavez succeeds in ousting the foreign and domestic oligarchy from Venezuela AND the country is successful in it's social programs, then it will serve as a model for the rest of Latin America and the dominant capitalist game will end, and the enslavement of the masses for the profit of a few will cease.
Wow, read this latest news about Chavez! He's got a whole plan to help out Latin American countries deal with high oil prices and to cooperate on economic development WITHOUT the US or the World Bank! This is fucking GREAT! Way to go Chavez! That's progressive political thinking! Power to the people! http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/08/24/jamaica.venezuela.oil.ap/
Didn't the CIA try to oust him from power in a badly orchestrated coup in 2000? (how do i know it was the CIA? well, he's still in power ain't he?)
Yes the CIA backed a coup that lasted for 2 days. They fucked up cause Chavez phoned his supporters and told them he hadn't quit. That was the lie the CIA & US State Dept. told everyone, and it was on all the news channels that he'd quit, but he'd really been kidnapped and held prisoner! See the US could only recognize a peaceful change of government, so they engineered the coup to look like a resignation. I distinctly remember the US saying they recognized the new government, like an hour after the coup! They were the ONLY ones to recognize it, as I recall, cause everyone else KNEW better. Then the PEOPLE came in and put Chavez back in power. Once word got out the streets were flooded with his supporters who were ready to fight to put him back. Chavez is carving out his legend at this moment. He is going to be up there with the big revolutionaries and he's likely to inspire an ENTIRE generation of Latino revolutionaries. I think communications have improved to the extent that the PEOPLE can now access enough alternative information to understand how they are being used by foreign capitalists, and their own elite. Times they are a changin'!
"Chavez has the combustible materials to fire up a revolution. Five percent of the population owns 80 percent of the land and 75 percent of the people live below the poverty line; 40 percent in "critical poverty." This is the situation he inherited from the elite whose rule is now ended. Let's see how well he does and how much of that oil money gets back to them. I understand there are now free hospitals staffed by 17,000 Cuban doctors and dentists in Venezuela. Wish I could say that about my own country! So it seems he's into trading the oil for things like services and good from other Latin American countries, which will help their economies grow, with out needing handouts from the imperialists. I just keep reading good things about him all the time. What the US says about Chavez seems more and more hollow and self-serving, if not outright lies.
I agree with Skip. Cuba has now opened for all types of eye treatment and healing of eye diseases to hundreds of thousands of patientss. 100 000 (a hundred thousand) Venezuelans will receive access to this kind of treatment in 2005. Since 25. July, 2005, Cuba has treated 25,024 patients from Venezuela, and the same number of Cubans have also been operated. You won't hear about these things in the corporate media.
It is not that simple. Americans are not allowed to trade with Cuba. Foreign corporations that trade with Cuba, cannot trade with the US. And considering the US has so incredibly many daughter-corporations, and those again mixed with other corporations, it means these corporations trading with Cuba will practically be isolated from the rest of the world. You treat "freedom" as something great. Something great than "God". As far as I can see, there is no "good" or "bad". There is only "is" and "isn't". What exist, and what does not exist. How would you define freedom? Can we discuss in a rational manner, without using over-used phrases? Anyways, forget this, and let us focus on what really matters. But you fail to recognize that in today's world, the government is controlled by business. It is controlled by those who own these corporations. I think you also fail to recognize that the government is not a neutral entity. Basically, every state in history has defended certain class interests. A socialist government will serve the interest of the workers and peasants, and will be controlled by the workers and peasants. A capitalist government will serve the interest of the capitalist class, and is controlled by the capitalist class. And we are supposed to believe that? The US gave several million dollars to the Taliban, right before the 9/11 attack. George Sr. was eating with one of the bin Laden's, during the 11th September attack. If anyone has connection to Osama bin Laden, it is the George Bush's. They have been big friends with the bin Ladens for over 30 years. Prove it! Define "dictatorship". The working class and peasantry have gained more power. The capitalist class ("the rich") are weaker. Things are going the right way. Democracy means people's power, not the rule of the rich. And? Prove it. Evidence? Documentation? And that is what matters. "Rich" does not equate "successful". He want to take away from those who have robbed and exploited the poor. Prove Chavez is a dictator. Come on, it can't be that hard? As I wrote before in this post: The working class and peasantry have gained more power. The capitalist class ("the rich") are weaker. Things are going the right way. Democracy means people's power, not the rule of the rich. Ergo, real democracy has been implemented in Venezuela. The people have elected Chavez. He is popular among the people. The people are living better lifes, they have more opportunities. They have a strong leader that does not allow exploitation of the poor. More people's power = More democracy = Venezuela has become more democratic under Chavez = Chavez is not a dictator, in fact, Chavez is the opposite.
