Catcher In The Rye rocks...but I'm missing the connection between it and communism...can you give some more detail?
Hehe, reminds me of when I once became convinced (while sky high) that the queen and cards in Alice in Wonderland were supposed to be nazis. Anyhow, I also fail to see the connection with communisim.
yeah i never thought of it politically. but Catcher in the Rye doesn't really have a plot, nothing really happens, but it's still an awesome book. yeah i'd like to have the communism connection explained as well.
who needs a plot, that's a crutch like anything else. they call it communism because Holden's got issues with the rat race for personal wealth and denial of human needs as a whole. he's just pissed that everybody wants to run around making money and screwing each other. he doesn't see the love in the whole thing. plus, anything anti-american's gonna raise the eyebrows of those people who love to blame things, "blame it on communism, blame it on this, blame it on my little willy," bla bla bla. another thing, he's being passed around schools, boarding schools, that house hundreds of kids in buildings with tight living quarters, where kids share everything and are forced to do everything together in the same manner. that's pretty communistic. anybody who spent just one semester in some kind of dorm knows communism's kind of prevalent with the way things work between friends. i'm not a supporter, just a judge. read "Gifted Disabilities" by Justin Blackburn. it's finally out on www.booksurge.com. The secret service came after the dude that wrote it. it's a whole lot like catcher in the rye, just on the next plane, the next level, the next wave. If you like Catcher you'll love Gifted Disabilities. Get on it. Let me know.
The Soviet Union was a socialist dictatorship. True communism has yet to exist, and will not exist as long as people have greed in their hearts. Nazis were similar to the USSR, although their governments' respective spins on the same bad deal made their countried ideologically opposed.
I still fail to see the connection between the story of a boy who has all this normal teenage angst(sp). This is normal behavior for teenage boys, blame everyone but yourself and so on. The whole book is just about a kid who feels he doesn't belong anywhere. I can relate except for the part about being male. I was an out of place teenager that thought a whole lot of people were grossly fake.
communism does exist and work in individual neighborhoods in Israel called Kibutzim. it only works there because it's such a small community being governed.
yeah i read it. it was a couple years ago and i didn't know it was supposed to be about communism i think i might read it again
A socialist dictatorship? That's a contradiction of terms. Stalinist dictaroship, or state capitalist are better phrases.
I hated Catcher in the Rye. It seemed like every other line in it was "goddam this" and "goddam that", and I got fed up with that "goddam crap' after a few chapters, but it was required reading in high school. John
Actually, Marxists have nothing against the term "socialist dictatorship" or "workers dictatorship". In a Marxist sense, it just means that the workers have control over society. So today's society will be a bourgeois (capitalist) dictatorship. I'd say the Soviet Union was a deformed workers state, but that's just my opinion. The Soviet Union was officially socialist, not communist. The goal of the Soviet Union was communism, but they didn't manage to reach that, because the Soviet government experienced a coup after Stalin died.
I can't see any obvious connection between 'Catcher In The Rye' & Communism. I don't recall J.D. Salinger being summoned to the McCarthy witchhunt Senate Hearings of the 1950s. I've read 'Catcher In The Rye' a few times & I appreciate the 'Lost-Weekend' in New York appros that shows Capitalism as exploiting Holden Caulfield at every which way he turns but the emotive & sensitive ending with Phoebie is anything but pro-communist. An interesting thought nonetheless!!!.
