CAMPBELL34 VS. LIBERTINE :The War To Settle The Score...

SeaHorse,


I have stated my belief in God to Libertine (though not by the name "God"), an unorthodox view, and I have found Libertine to be kind, cordial and honest. However, I did not curse him or 'push' my beliefs onto him (not to say that you have either). Also, there is another very intelligent poster who gets along fine with Libertine. It does not appear to me that Libertine discounts the potential validity of inner awarenesses and insight that people have but he is concerned with how this is communicated or, rather, he concerned with shared objective proof in his disscussions.

Peace,

David


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i didnt curse him or push my beliefs on him either. I am just sharing what I believe just like anyone else around here.
none of us, online or offline, can give Libertine what he's looking for, and he knows it, yet he keeps asking us for it and scoffing at us for not having it.

 

SeaHorse,

I can give him what he is looking for and have, and that is that there are great mysteries in our universe and no one, that I know of, has yet provided shared objective proof that a God exists. I am clear that there are great gifts available to us, look at the changes that are dawning in our world. As wild as it may sound, I believe that someday soon that researchers will be able to provide convincing inductive proof that something similiar to what many people refer to as God exists. Look back at my posts in your Christmas story thread. And search my posts in general.


Love,

David

 

it's fine if you do it, i dont have a problem with that. Its the manner with which you do it that comes across as hurtful and hateful.


I dont mind agreeing to disagree, but the disrespect has to stop in order for constructive conversations to actually start.

Which group is being more hostile with thier choice of words? How can we converse while we're being spit upon?

 

....and did he settle for that? i thought i told him that, as well as a few others.

 

Cooloner: Not yet, but I'm about to chime in.

He needs little nubby horns.


Peace,

David

 

it wouldnt be rewarding...because we all have to find GOd or be found by GOd for it to become real to us...we cannot go by heresay, we cannot be saved simply through someone else's testimony...we must have one ourselves.

 

Seahorse, you are correct: my sense is that he is trying to jar folks who make assumptions about him and I respect what you are saying. This is more an issue of style rather than wanton insult because it is ellicited from Libertine.


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Thank you, David.

We have always gotten on well, I think as well.

Seahorse, you made the statement that my posts are "hateful", I merely defended myself and David has corroborated this.

 

Yes, rewarding. But I see it such that we cannot escape learning because our inner-drive is to learn about the nature of our experience, the nature of joy and suffering, the nature of attraction and repulsion. The drive is to self-realization and thus a distinct new level of being that most are 'nonconsciuously' aware of now.



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I, for one, would find it rewarding to KNOW something rather than cling to blind hope. Very rewarding. Extremely rewarding.

 

the reason i feel disrespected is because i belong to the group that you ARE disrespecting. We are all parts of one body.

havnt we said enough times that we dont always have the answers for these things? is that not good enough? or do we have to be super-human to fit your standards of religious acceptance

 

Yes, definitely rewarding. The only way to fly.

 

Twasn't meant for YOU...

 

Your body and I'm in it.

 

But even so, you appear to be looking for something because the words in this thread appear to have had some attractive effect on you such that you responded. Me too. I want to know, not claw at a driving want or need with self-deception.


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I spoke of the myth that "knowing" wouldn't be rewarding.

To ME, in MY opinion, it would be.

 

A wonderful lazy man sits alone, peaceful, in a mango grove. He sees a little bird and is interested.


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What can you know that you can't prove or that SOMEONE, at least, couldn't prove?

Unless it is subjective...like "love" or "hate" ?

 

In this case, argue for your limitations and most assuredly they are yours.


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