Bush Approval down to 34%, Cheney 30%!

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by skip, Nov 18, 2005.

  1. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    As conservatives keep claiming that Bush's poll numbers (34% approval) can't go any lower, they continue to slide, and are now lower than all presidents at this point in their second term except Nixon (29%) who resigned soon after.

    http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=613

    Cheney isn't in much better shape at 30%

    This is a very good sign because we can't get rid of Bush without getting rid of Cheney as well. I'm not sure how this can be accomplished, but the odds of Bush finishing out his term are getting slimmer each day.

    Unless Bush does a complete about face on Iraq and other policies and dumps his current advisors and V.P., he cannot survive much longer.

    With no significant successes to impress his base, and no new policy initiatives or change of course (we'll STAY the course!), he is doomed.

    There are so many things hurting Bush right now, his staff can't even keep up with damage control much less chart a new course in policy. So that means the presidency is effectively dead, and a ball & chain keeping America stuck in place.

    The Democrats have finally found the balls to take the offensive against Bush, but with their popularity also waning, it looks like the American people have finally realized how corrupt and mismanged their government is.

    The big question is what are they gonna do about it?
     
  2. Higherthanhell

    Higherthanhell Banned

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    Actually..you're giving Chenney too much credit..his approval rating is 19%.

    http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/03/cheney-19/

    Cheney Approval Nearing Rock Bottom at 19%
    Vice President Cheney seems to have brushed off the felony charges against his most senior aide:

    The criminal indictment of the vice president’s chief of staff, a rare moment in White House history, does not appear to have derailed Dick Cheney’s career — or even his routine.

    The vice president has replaced the aide, I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, with two other longtime assistants and seems prepared to continue his role as a central player in the Bush presidency, particularly on foreign policy and the Iraq war.

    But the American people haven’t:

    Vice President Cheney has never been as popular as the president, but his favorable rating is down nine points this year to just 19 percent.
     
  3. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    RE: but the odds of Bush finishing out his term are getting slimmer each day.

    How do you figure?

    Worst that can happen for him is he doesn't win reelection... oh wait, he isn't eligible for reelection....
     
  4. eat_some_LSD

    eat_some_LSD Senior Member

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    Not yet, anyway...:p
     
  5. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Once a leader gets into the 20% range he can no longer get anything accomplished and must resign. And it won't be the democrats who force him, it'll be his fellow republicans who do. Why? Because THEIR agenda & political futures would be in jeopardy otherwise if they failed to act.

    My worry is that Bush will scream TERROR at the top of his lungs to scare everyone into letting him stay. Unfortunately for him, you can only cry WOLF! so many times (like 10,000 already) before people don't believe him anymore, or decide that HE is the WOLF!
     
  6. madcrappie

    madcrappie crazy fish

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    I wish we could hold a re-election like they did in kaleefornia. Id be sure and vote for ahhnold shwarzennegger
     
  7. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    I'm hoping to see republicans lose a lot of seats in 2006. Then we could possibly talk impeachment, with all the lying about intelligence going on. A woman can dream, can't she? =)
     
  8. stoney69

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    is this the democracy we're bein told we're missin out on, here in the middle east ?
     
  9. Shane99X

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    Bush give in?



    In our wildest dreams.



    He could be at 2% and he'll still cling to whatever power he has remaining....
     
  10. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Trust me, it can't happen that Bush would reach so low and still be in power. It would be an incredible embarrassment for the Republicans and the US itself. Indeed democracy would die.

    Of course imposing martial law upon the country could allow him to stay in power longer. Just need one of those CIA black op terror attacks inside the US before he can do that.

    Anthrax anyone?
     
  11. LickHERish

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    Democracy has long been a farce, Skip. Use of the term in standard, oft heard "official" rhetoric has devolved into little more than political doublespeak for "Capitalism" as it is applied by Washington (and quite a number of its client states' governments).

    Moreover, remember that the Repubs will be the first to claim that the US isnt a democracy anyways, "it's a Republic". :rolleyes:
     
  12. eat_some_LSD

    eat_some_LSD Senior Member

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    It's quite the contrary, actually; the Republicans are the ones claiming to spread "democracy" to the Middle East. A few lines from our Pledge of Allegiance:

    I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,
    And to the republic, for which it stands...blah blah blah.

    I'd consider it more of a Fascist dictatorship with a dash of theocracy and a little police state sprinkled on top...but why quibble over details? ;)
     
  13. luvndrumn

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    Source, please? Believe me, I would like nothing better than to see him resign (except maybe to be led away in chains with the security detail unholstering Tazers, but THAT isn't going to happen either). So what part of the Constitution or Bill of Rights or any other document of the U.S. contains that stricture, Skip? I'm just dying to know.
     
  14. luvndrumn

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    Actually, the U.S. is a republic. We elect, or so we're told, through a democratic process, or so we're told, representatives who will enact laws on our behalf, or so we're told. If this was a democracy, 200-plus million people would be voting on everything from the budget to the Patriot Act.
     
  15. LickHERish

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    Eat_some, I am well aware of the use of the term "Democracy" as applied by Repubs, that was the precise point of the first paragraph of my previous post. It is this use which is, in fact, standard political doublespeak (for which many pro-war Dems are equally guilty) for "Capitalism" or "Corporate hegemony" (used interchangeably as befits the context of any particular "official" soundbite).

    Since one cannot spread "Democracy" to anyone, especially by force, it is patently NOT democracy that is being spread, but rather good ol long-running political and economic subjugation. Something for which Washington has become infamous the world over since the end of WWII.

    As for your other comments I would suggest more of an elite corporatocracy (or oligarchy for simplicity sake) with fascist police state aspirations which are incrementally being realised with the help of a purposely misinformed and complacent majority.
     
  16. Keramptha

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    im a bit calmer now becuaseive just made a new song while i made the computer restart... becuase my keyboard died. but before all this great stuff i was just going to say.... LETS ALL STRAP ON EXPLOSIVES AND FUCK THE WHITEHOUSE AND EVERYONE IN IT. but as i say, i just made a cool song about peace....and it ends with... 'i hate geroge bush' just coz hes a stupid fool. they prbably want me to hate him, becuase hes the puppet, and theyre the loony bastards.....so i fell for the trap... i hate the american government.
     
  17. madcrappie

    madcrappie crazy fish

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    uhh if that is so, big deal, thats in the first part of his term...... how long was he there? 5 months???

    there is a big difference between the two, even if that is so....... bush's rating comes after 5 years in office.
     
  18. timeoutofmind

    timeoutofmind So Many Roads...

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    i could of sworn it was in the high 20s, eh i guess i misread something.
     
  19. IronGoth

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    The problem is that the Republicans have figured out that all they need to do is cater to a single issue for a given group and that group WILL vote them in.

    So long as they oppose gay marraige, Texas and the yokel states will vote em in in droves.
     
  20. freesmile

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    well said, representative democracies do not have to be a 2 party system, vote with your heart for someone to truely represent you
    peacex
     
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