Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by EllisDTripp, Jan 23, 2005.
awesome... its amazing how many people dont know about the PNAC... members of it include major powers from countries all over the world... including the new president of afghanistan... it's a secret plan for world domination... if you google "Pnac" you will find the original pnac website and the one showing you the point of the PNAC that they don't want you to know.
PNAC consists of (mostly) American-born elites. Mostly Zionist Neocons like Perle, Kristol and Feith... all of whom have close ties to Israel and are members of JINSA.
However, another component of the shadow government, David Rockefeller's Trilateral Commission, as well as the super-elite, super-secret Bilderberg Group, do consist of major players from all across the globe.
A secret plan with a website?
Rat, I assume you have now made up your mind on the chemtrails story, because in the past I thought you said you weren't sure.
Also, this talk about zionists with close ties to Israel as a component of a "shadow government" - its sounds like you are edging your way towards talk about a ZOG.
I know .. they 'secretly' publish all their plans on some thing called 'the net' .. i don't think it will catch on myself .. With our freedom of information act barely out of its nappies .. i hate to think what level of crap is going to be put together by our mmmm whats a polite word ?... can't think.
It will be interesting to see how far this goes.I feel however it will go like the impeach bush movement,fizzle and stop.sigh.
I don't remember saying that, or even mentioning chemtrails in this forum.
I do know stuff is being sprayed from planes on a daily basis, all across the US and many other western countries, that are simply not contrails. Studies prove this, and samples have been collected from planes, detecting everything from barium and aluminum, to human blood cells.
Contrails form only at higher altitudes, and they usually disappear within several minutes. Chemtrails are found at much lower altitudes, where they not only linger for sometimes hours, but gradually spread out over time, blanketing the sky with a cloudy haze. They are usually dispersed in the sky in odd gridlike formations, parallel lines, or "X" formations, which slowly merge to form one wispy cloud-like mass in the sky.
What the intention of this spraying is is beyond me. But the fact is, we're not being told the truth by our government, as usual. Some researchers believe that chemtrails are part of a secret government program dealing with weather modification. Other people have suggested more sinister things like population control or mass inoculation. However, it's no lie that people have gotten sick from these chemtrails and have developed lung problems and other diseases.
If anyone is interested in reading more about chemtrails, check out the work of Clifford E. Carnicom and Dr. Len Horowitz. And before you automatically accuse them of being "conspiracy theorists," check out their credentials.... then show us yours.
Chemtrails...that's all new to me. I have seen them before though, and can say that now that I know what they are. God, let's hope it isn't something crazy like mass inoculation or population control. I am not even fond of thinking our gov't is experimenting with weather control without our knoweldge.
Any good links to information about them?
Edit: A lot of the information I have seen on them (after googling) seems kind of nutty. I always assumed these "chemtrails" were just clouds or exhaust from jets. I have seen many of these over Austin, however. More info would be helpful.
Seriously Pressed rat.. i would also like some more info on this as well ?.
I watched a programe about ... well here is my thread http://hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59663
You say contrails dissapear ?.. harmlessly or not ?.
Yes, Ellis, but notice I said THIS forum. I didn't know that PB visits the other forums, too.
I don't want to hijack this thread and divert any further from the original topic.
Aside from what I suggested above, here are some sites:
revolution. take over the government. do it all cubain like. yea
I hate to continue to keep us off-topic, but I did find (somewhat) gov't admittance to chemtrails. They mention in it a bill HR2977 (The Space Prevention Act) Which defines "chemtrails" as a "exotic weapons system"
The bill can be found here:
And you can find chemtrails listed under Sec. 7 (Definitions) B. (ii)
Yeah, that bill is supposed to prohibit things like that from being used by the US, here and abroad, let alone against its own people. But when you look at the power, corruption and secrecy behind the US government and beyond, do you really think they adhere to such rules? What rules, international or otherwise, has the US EVER adhered to?
Simply put, the government works above the law.
The fact is, the US government possesses MOST (if not all) of the technologies listed in that bill, and they have been experimenting with them for a long time, without the public's knowing. This is just one of the many reasons people have to worry about the government gaining too much power over them and the media.
There is a ton of information out there if you just look.
And yes, some people will think it's kooky "conspiracy theory," but anything is conspiracy theory to people that have been conditioned to believe that such things don't happen or couldn't happen, especially when you don't hear about it in the news or read about it in the paper.
Most people don't understand that the topic of chemtrails has been widely researched by scientists and people with Phd's and other advanced degress; such as Dr. Len Horowitz (a graduate of Harvard University) and Will Thomas. Not conspiracy theorists in tin foil hats... though, understandably, there are many conspiracy theorists that are attracted to the subject of chemtrails.
The government has been experimenting on innocent civilians for a long time, and has engaged in everything from the mind control experiments of MK ULTRA to the injecting of US troops with experimental vaccinations, which are believed to be the primary culprit -- along with exposure to Depleted Uranium -- behind the Gulf War Syndrome.
Our gov't thinks that they are above the law, so the bill itself doesn't convince me that they wouldn't be doing any sort of testing. What it does do is verify their existance for me (as being seperate fron contrails, and as an "exoctic weapon").
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