Burn your own flag?

to those who are for 'internationalism':

Do you think we should also get rid of culture and language? Those divide us too.

Perhaps we can all live happily speaking english and playing baseball.

Oh what a wonderful world...

 

I am all for internationalism, but would NEVER advocate abolition of different languages or cultures. I believe that diversity is what makes the world even a little good. If there was to be one culture or language, I would never support that be that language or culture. Wisdom comes from learning from those who live differently. I love differences. Differences make the world beautiful, but we're still more the same than we think.

 

without borders, culture/language melt into one.

The problems of "nationalism" will continue until ALL differences are eradicated. That means language/culture, etc.

I see no point in getting rid of national distinctions..they are just as arbitrary as language and culture.

 

Megara....I totally agree. Internationalists drive me mad...they're like inverse supporters of globalisation.

 

I'm afraid I would have to agree with you on this one. Burning the flag means nothing, The Flag itself through the years has lost it's feel it's true meaning which was once a symbol for the people and the country, now it's just a symbol used for power, I say hell yeah burn the flag. I love my country I served my country and you know what burn the flag, support our troops and fight the government!

 

I support the troops all the way. They are serving the people by putting their life in harms way and I respect that. However that flag means nothing to me other then the fact that instead of the Troops dying for the people they are dying for a flag!

 

right on

 

Have i said this before? Burn the stupid flags. Burn them and enjoy the bonfire, until a world flag is invented.
Flags, like patriotism, are negative. They COULD be positive, and i understand they are made and displayed mostly with good intentions...but theyre horribly misinterpreted, and the danger of this misunderstanding is too great.

Xx

 

Globalisation? Destruction of cultural diversity? The same laws for everyone? Lets NOT create a world flag. One giant nation is far worse than several hundred. Now maybe you're advocating a world flag which promotes tolerance and freedom of self government, i can live with that.

 

Ick i hate the fact the have a world court i can't imagine a world goverment!

 

I'm not even for the European Union turning into the United States Of Europe.

I accept the European Union is good for the states involved to have free trade and free right of passage for workers but I don't accept the idea of a government run from Brussels.

The reason is obvious. I live in the North East of Scotland. Most of the people in the European Government will never have visited and will know very little about life up here.

The fishing is now non-existent for Scottish Trawlers because the North Sea has been overfished and stocks are depleted. Did Scottish Trawlers cause this? No. The Scottish boats can only carry so much fish. So who did cause this.

The EU said that Scottish Fisherman will stop fishing the north sea and in return they will be subsidised. But who got those subsidies. Was it the workers? No. Some fat cat boss took the money and run and thats after it was taxed by the government. So now the fisherman here have nothing to do. There are boats doing nothing.

Back to the question "where have all the fish gone?". In return for the subsidies Spanish Trawlers were allowed to fish the waters and they have huge great trawlers with huge nets and they have raped the sea of its fish.

This is my small world and I don't expect anyone to care and I'm sure some of you will say look at the bigger picture but I believe government should be localised. I like the fact that we now have a Scottish parliament. They know whats happening in Scotland.

I just think centralised government is a bad thing. There are rules made that are for everyone that don't take into consideration the lives of the people it will effect.

An example was the pounds and ounces thing. In the UK we are a bit oldie worlde. We used Miles instead of Kilometres and Pounds and Ounces instead of grams and kilograms.

A few years ago the EU said that we must adopt grams and kilograms and drop the pounds and ounces. It became a crime to not advertise fruit and veg in metric weight.
A man actually went to prison for not labelling potatoes in grams.

Consider that most market stall owners are of a good age and have been brought up on pounds and ounces. Its only 1 generation that has been taught metric weight in schools. How is it fair to expect other generations to suddenly change the rules?

Now the EU want us to change the miles into kilometres. Do you know how many signboards in Britain display the distances to places in miles. thousands of them. It is predicted it would cost £750000 to change them all. What a pointless exercise.

So world government? no way. EU is bad enough and I would not be part of a European State if I had the choice.

Another example of a ridiculous EU rule..... Cornish Pasties can only be called Cornish Pasties if they are made in Cornwall, England. Now Cornish Pasties determine a certain kind of Pasty and not just where its from.

 

It would never work. Everyone's culture is different...everyone's way of life is different...what works here, may not work in another country (case in point: Iraq...although I wouldn't say what they are doing over there is working here, either, but I think you get my point).

 

burning yer own flag will give you penalty as a crime against yer country..

 

Not in the United States.

 

heeh let me correct myself..
in estonia..
its about the respect and nationality and stuff like this..
Im kinda happy that we have the law about the flag like this.. otherwise it would make patriots (including me) a bit sad as the flag has been desecrated

 

Wait when did i say anything about shared governments and customs and...?

Im not THAT small minded

Why does unity have to mean a complete takeover by any one culture?

I meant true unity...as in, people learn as many languages as they can, learn as much about as many cultures as they can, accept the world as one huge diverse whole.

Im currently half-dying of flu, but will explain better later...if i remember someone remind me, or something.

Xx

 

how is patriotism for a country different than patriotism for a one world government? No difference, its just a different flag, anthem or whatever

 

The difference would be-it wouldnt have the dangers of negative misinterpretation. Meaning, it wouldnt be able to be interpreted by anyone as a big loud "were much better than you. Our piece of land is better than yours. And youre very much different to us." It would be a proclamation of exactly the opposite-our unity, our sameness, our humanity as opposed to section of humanity, with a meaningless label on.
I never did, however, say i advocated patriotism of any sort.
Im too ill to elaborate much further

Xx

P.s-i also never supported the idea of a "one world government"...and i dont know of anyone who does, either.

Xx

 

I would never burn the Union Jack or the flag of St. George. I would feel ashamed of betrayal. I would quite happily burn the EU flag though. I don't want that here.

 

HA! I live near nottingham...God this whole areas a shitpit, just as most of England is...
"Betrayal"...that really sounds primitive and instinctive and thoughtless to me...betrayal of what? What should we be "loyal" to, and why? The place our mothers happened to have given birth to us in? ...totally senseless.


P.s-Being "loyal", or "betraying", would suggest that there are "sides" or "teams"...This is exactly the kind of extreme misuse of pride in culture, which is dangerous to the world, which disturbs me.