Hey everyone I have had a decent number of AMAZING experiences with 2ce taken orally. Sometimes these trips have been on my own, sometimes with a close friend. Something, i cannot recall what now (possibly a post here on HF about IVing another RC), or possibly something else, idk. So yesterday, Thursday the 27th, i had planned to dose some 2ce with my friend. A few days before i began looking into IVing 2ce. I decided i would give it a try because i hadn't read too many experiences about it. Set: It was a brisk, but often slightly hot, and sunny day. Also later on a more public shopping area. Setting:A LARGE lake, with a beach, many small sometimes accesible/ sometimes not islands, plenty of woodland areas, and a lot of space. I CAREFULLY (heeding a fellow HF's members advice) scaled out a dose of 8mgs. The scale that i share with my friend is pretty accurate, and has been re-calibrated recently. I put the 2ce into the cooker, (im not sure what else to call this, but from using dope and coke, this is what i know the 'mixer' to be called), and added about 20ml of sterile water. After mixing, i added a filter into the mixture which was an off white color, drew the liquid into the barrel of the syringe, and prepped my arm. Once i was ready to go, i carefully (as i try to be when shooting up) put the needle into my vein, pulled back the plunger to make sure it registered (making sure needle is in the vein), and the pushed the plunger down. Contrary to what a couple people here on HF had suggested, and also what i have read on other sites, 2ce did not burn AT ALL, when injected. I quickly but carefully removed the needle and applied pressure on the injection spot to stop any bleeding. After about 3 seconds a felt a surge of warmth, heaviness in my eyes, looseness of the muscles in my body(slightly NOT totally, and a few seconds that strong euphoria throughout my body. For a good 5 minutes i was at total relaxation, TNS had put the song 'comfortably numb' by Pink Floyd which is a classic, although i am not that huge floyd fan myself. The version of the song he had was live, and is almost PERFECT. The arrangements in the music where 10x as wonderful, IMO as dosing 2ce orally. +5 mins: I stepped outside of where i was and for some reason yawned (this has happened before when i feel the 2ce taking hold) and decided to walk out to the island ( a sand bar can be walked on to get there) and relax, trip out, etc. When we got there i was having VIVID open eye visuals. All kinds of tracers, the water all around me was very colorful, and the forests off around the edge of the lake were blending together with the boats and the marina near the shore. +10mins: For some reason, after a little time chilling out on the island i dropped to the ground and was basically lying down in the sand. I felt some connection with the sand and my body heat. When i would touch the sand it would send a little shiver through my body. I was looking at grains of the sand up close and they were dancing around glistening in the sun. +20mins: I walked back to the 'mainland' with my friend and chilled out for a while longer listening to music. Around this time i also snorted about 15mgs of 2ce. The effects described above only lessened SLIGHTLY after about 20 minutes but after that point i was still seeing VERY vivid colors, OEVs and CEVs, and i was having amazing auditory hallucinations. These effects lasted about another 3 hours and started to dwindle. Later on in the day i scaled out around 15mgs, did the same procedure as above and although there was only a small amount of change in regards to the chemical, the effects were even profoundly stronger than the 8mg dose. All in all IVing 2ce is WONDERFUL, i felt as though i was exposed to the raw beauty of all my surroundings, and could take an interest in them more so than before... although i think that it could be too intense for many people. It IS a very different trip than taking 2ce orally. If anyone has any questions or comments about the above TR i would love to see em'. Stay safe everyone :sunny:
Good report! I have not read much about IV 2cx use so I appreciate this report, eventhough I probably won't attempt it myself. I assume you plan on exploring this ROA further in the future, do you plan on mainly using this in conjunction with other ROA's like insuffalation? If so do you plan on trying IV'ing later in the trip or do you think its something you will primarily do as the initial dose.
Thank you. It was only brief report and also i am not the best at writing TR's. I do plan on exploring this ROA further, but i must say i do love taking 2ce orally :love: I think that if/when i IV the chemical again, that i will probably go up to about 20mgs, and do that as the initial dose. The headspace and body feeling that the first and long lasting instant peak that shooting gives is, well, indescribable. Then later on maybe take a smaller dose orally/nasally depending on how i feel. :sunny:
You were tripping like a madman, homie. lol At one point, you turned to me and said your OEV's consisted mainly of swirling fractals. haha I think that was after your second shot. And what the fuck is up with all these people saying 2ce burns so bad? I snorted 10-15mg on top of the ~100 or so mg's I dosed orally and it burned for MAYBE three seconds.
:sunny: It was a great time indeed. 2ce doesnt burn at all, i agree man, i guess everyone else are just PUNKS. lol
continuing off topic... I think it was two years ago I got from Canada from LL and that shit burned in your nosehole... burned fucking bad... you'd rather take ten kicks to the crotch plus a sharp stick in the eye bad
WOW. well that just plain sucks. maybe that stuff had some kind of adulterant to it? Maybe the stuff I have is lesser quality (although IME it is pretty damn good)
So, how strong was that 8mg dose compared to an oral dose? What I mean is, how many mg would be needed orally to get to that 8mg dose? I haven't done 2CE in a long time, but when I did large oral doses I found the comeup really bad. I'm surprised you were so relaxed on the comeup lol. Maybe it's just me.
I would say that the 8mg dose IV'ed felt, well i cant really compare it because the onset is instant and so different that orally dosing. I would say it felt like i ate about 100mgs at least, and i was peaking within seconds. I was VERY nervous when i was actually injecting the 2ce, but as soon as the plunger went down..... :sunny: When i have dosed orally, about 4 or so times, i also have a slightly uncomfortable come up with some nausea and also some issues in regards to my bowels. TNS and I have dosed together many times, in fact we are planning a trip tomorrow.....:afro: TopNotch almost always throws up when we dose 2ce, but he says after he throws up during the comeup, the peak comes on rapidly and then he starts to trip. Its happened i think almost every time we have dosed Hope that answered your questions man. Feel free to HMU anytime if you wanna know anything else.
i've had 2ce of the burning variation as well i tried snorting it twice and it was pretty painful, though i'm not one to snort things my buddy LOVED snorting oxy, but when he railed 2ce he was in SEVERE pain. i've heard much more of 2ce (or any 2cx) that burns when you snort it, rather than stuff that doesn't. maybe your guys' shit is cut? no wonder you have to take 100 mg to trip *ATTENTION: the behavior described in this thread is incredibly dangerous. please do not attempt*
In pihkal, shulgin mentions somebody else reporting that iv 2c-c lasted about 15 minutes. very interesting from a metabolic standpoint, as 2c-e seemed to last much longer than that after my IV TMA-6 experience [http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=437388&f=126], i really want to stress that alternative ROA's with some of these compounds may not be as safe as those already explored..extremely interesting nevertheless. i really hope people proceed with caution..honestly, with my experience with IV TMA-6 is something that retrospectively was dangerous. even though it didn't seriously harm the person who recommended it to me, nobody's metabolism is the same. speaking from experience and research, two-carbon phenethyamines seem to act MUCH less predictably when insufflated.. not everybody who has insufflated 2c-t-7 is dead, but a few were killed [it's too bad the circumstances surrounding the deaths weren't investigated and studied further].
TNS said its some of the better 2ce he has had, but said he has had stuff that is better. I have only ever gotten it from the same source, so have nothing to compare it too. Dont think it is cut...not sure. ahaha, orally dosing ive taken 30mgs (my first time using 2ce) and was BLOWN away by it. I have just chosen to keep upping the dose( thankfuly ive had enough to do so) and letting the effects intensify. :sunny: