My boyfriend is 'semi' Muslim ( a bit unsure ) and I am a Christian. Our belifs usually never conflict, but what bugs me is this: he'll talk about Islam and how it is 'right' and theorys that prove Christianity and other religions wrong. Why Judaism is better or the facts, history, etc. that prove it to be more factual and accurate, and basically, all around better. This hurts me so much and I almost don't know what to do with it. What upsets me the most is he doesn't have a very strong relationship with God while I do, and he also isn't completely sure on his religion or his faith, but yet still says all of this to me. I try telling him that having a relationship is much more important than a religion, but I don't think he can see that. He's a great, amazing, person but this hurt's me very much. What get's me the most is when he trys telling me that Jesus was only a disciple and no different than the rest, not the son of God. And without saying it he tells me that basically I'm wrong with my relationship with Jesus, and because of facts, etc. Christianity, and Jesus is almost laughable. It hurt's me and I love him very much but God is a huge part in my life and it's becoming harder to share my life with someone who doesn't share the same belifs. Thoughts?
This is an extremely wise statement. From what I've seen, people who defend their faith or atheism to the point where they are intolerant, and unwilling to learn from, others are the people who are the most insecure about their beliefs.
I'm quite surprised, since Christianity and Islam are both very similar religions. Muslims don't see Jesus as the son of god, but Jesus is the 2nd most important human in their religion after Mohammed(sp?) and was considered a great prophet of god who did miraculous things, just not the son of god or the savior. I might be wrong but I was under the impression that it was Islam where all people of the book(Muslims, Christians and Jews) all went to heaven. Seems pretty pointless to argue over it then.
i see 2 issues here. 1st - the issue of a muslim dating is somewhat ironic. I get that he's "not sure" of his religion, but he seems to want it every which way. muslims dont date (as it leads to premarital sex), so there could be some feeling of guilt just from that. 2nd, muslims essentially believe in the same God as Jesus did, but not paul's conception of god. it's pretty much impossible for us to accept 3 into 1 or 1 into 3; to us, God is simply "one omnipotent being". although xians say that theyre monotheistic like jews and muslims, it's hard for us to wrap our heads around the "mystery" of the trinity. God is one being to us, and associating partners with him is illogical. so i can see why there's a rift b/n you 2. that said, this guy seems utterly confused about what he wants. deep down, he probably wants you to see God the same way he does, but his preaching is going to naturally antagonize you. I really dont have much in the way of advice. as you can see, it looks like a bit of a mess - one which, really, he shouldnt have gotten into in the 1st place if he wasnt willing to tolerate your beliefs. HTH
Says who? Who is "us"? God is an it in the Trinity as I see it, not a him. "Him" implies personality which is what the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are.
says the Koran: "the believers are...those who protect their sexual organs except from their spouses... Therefore, whosoever seeks more beyond that [in sexual gratification], then they are the transgressors." (23:5-6) muslims. "him" is simply used by convention. its not something that says God has a gender. it's used that way in the Bible and in the Koran. yes, 3 personalities into one. which doesnt make any sense to Muslims or jews. i dont want to hijack this thread w/ a discussion on the trinity, but i'll just say this: if A is identical to B, & B is identical w/ C, then A is identical to C. so if the son is god, and god is the same as the holy ghost, then the son is the holy ghost. they're one and the same thing. but that's something that's absolutely opposed to be christians. maybe, b/c that would mean that jesus gave birth to himself as the holy ghost? and you go around and around in circles. For muslims and jews, its simple: God is one all-powerful being. No divisions, no sons, no equals. we can talk about this some more in a different thread, if youd like to.
Trinitarian Theology affirms that God is one being, one substance, one entity- YHWH, the God of Israel. More than that though, we have observed YHWH in three egos or persons. The persons are functionally different from one another, but they share the same Divine substance. This enables X (Father) to be Y (Son) to be Z (Spirit) because they are all 'W', Divine. But it also allows for the differences in ego and function. Nathan
I've seen God (Z or X, maybe W?) act through people (Ys?), and independantly of others. It's just God though. So, why call God acting through souls "the son"? Why not just say God is acting through souls? Why the complicated roundabout talk (that God started in the first place)? Why call God doing stuff independantly of people something else? Why not just call God "God"? When God does stuff independantly of people, just say God did it. When God does stuff through people, say "God did that through, using, or with that person."
Are you saying that it is okay for non christians to marry Christians? If so, don't let Campbell hear that... he knows and has seen the effect first hand.
I would look a it a differnt way, I would just look at that and see that pre-marital sex was forbidden, not dating too. Ok, I had looked in your profile, but didn't see anything, that is why i asked Yeah, that is true. Again, I dind't know your faith, so I was being safe. (I have a tendancy of stating very obvious things). And yes, it is a good idea not to hijack the thread i will PM you possibly tomorrow when I have more time.
the rest is based on interpretation. based on other verses and sayings of the Prophet that said that men and women should always be modest towards one each (meaning avoid physical arousal) and guard themselves before marriage. that's the goal. dating defeats that purpose. and pretty much every muslim knows that. im not arguing right now about whether dating is right or not, im just saying that as a muslim, this guy knows that it's not allowed. we can start a new thread on it, if youd like to. im very busy now too, so i cant get into the whole trinity debate just yet. but i can certainly bring up a few points whenever.