hey everybody! so it's been at least a year since i've been on here... probably 3 since i've posted regularly. (hello, OG hf users ) i recently read some buzz about bk-2c-b. i've wondered for YEARS if betaketone-2,5dimethoxy-4XXphens would be active (or more accurately, assumed that they probably were and wondered why they haven't been around) just wondering if anybody on here has tried compound yet? there's not much info, and GOD, i love 2c-b, but more importantly, i'm curious to see of the bk-mdXX->mdXX relationship is paralleled in any way with the psychedelic 2c-x phens. with the bk-mdxx compounds, the focus tended to lean more towards the dopamine activity (while the serotonergic affects were still definitely present), and i always wondered if this would be the same case with bk-2c-x compounds. some of the reports about bk-2c-b seem loosely indicate that this is the case. ANYHOW, has anybody here had any experience with this compound yet?
hey shermin! i haven't tried this compound, but i know at least one regular member here has tried it. he liked it quite a bit, but i'll let him speak for himself...
I've been lurking for awhile but this will be my first post. I tried bk-2CB for the first time last weekend. I had 500mg and just divided into 5 somewhat equal piles. I don't recommend doing this but I didn't have a scale and the dosage range has been listed between 100mg to 150mg. Overall I didn't care for it much but I probably needed to up the dose. I'm a hard head when it comes to psychedelics. It was very similar to the 2C compounds and nbomes but with a very long duration, well over 12 hours. I'll give it a go again and report when its fresh in my mind. I haven't done 2c-b but have done 2c-c,e,i and 25B and 25i nbome. It was probably most like 25b but the trip lasted longer than even 2C-E does.
in my experience bk-2c-b was much more similar to MDMA, than it was like 2c-b proper. the experience focused itself more on the empathogenic side than the psychedelic one. and LOOONNG lasting! the euphoria lasted a LONG time, and there was no sharp comedown. in fact, the positivity gained from the experience seemed to stick around for a few more weeks. There were some visual effects, including very pronounced tracers (much more than typical on MDxx) but otherwise not incredibly intense in other respects typical of a 2c-x and overall did not seem to be of the same character as 2c-b visuals (intensity not considered). There was also a moderate level of confusion present, but less so that can occur on many psychedelics, closer to what might be encounterd on a high dose of MDMA. there was a definite underlying psychedelic tone, with a strong positive push. YMMV. I would probably class it as an empathogen/entactogen rather than a classic psychedelic. i wish i could say more, i will say that i would not consider it to be another methylone. i don't remember ever fiending for it, unlike methylone. the methylone experience seems to be more focused on the stimulant effects. bk-2c-b *is* stimulating, but of a different softer nature, in a way that you don't really notice it, but it's there. apparently the chem must not be exposed to any alkaline solution, or else it will dimerise to form a purplish compound, which may or may not be active. putting it in a gelcap is fine, but making a solution in tap water may not be, depending on the ph of the water. edit: when i say it lasts a long time ... i remember 10 hours in that it was still going strong. one of the longest lasting chems ive sampled. i liked it quite a bit
i'd call it closer to MDA than MDMA. definitely not that similar to methylone. iirc, there's not so much of a "blowing up" but a steady progression of the level of intensity. can't remember if there were a lot of eye wiggles, but i think there was. i do remember that increasing the dose didn't seem to increase the intensity of the visuals, but did increase the duration of the whole experience.
Found 100mg tab just as I dropped 3mgs of DOC...yesterday...? Anyway, the notoriously long DOC comeup was replaced with OEVs resembling tiedye and very strong empathy towards the strangest of things..then the blotter kicked in and that was 15 hours of ineffibility. Will be ordering more bk-2ci ASAP and get a good solid experience with a higher dose.
Was one of the first people to sample this a while before it got released to the public, lovely beautiful substance and I'm so glad it got to see the light of day. I found bk-2C-B to be like 35-40% the potency of 2C-B (but I'm more sensitive to it than most it seems. For me 110mg bk-2C-B was similarly intense to 40mg 2C-B), but 2-2.5x the duration, and otherwise very similar in effects. However the body high, euphoria, and empathy from bk-2C-B blow that of 2C-B out of the water by a huge amount for me. My only qualm with the substance was that the last 2 hours or so of the trip I feel completely worn out and want to sleep but can't, similar to with DOB/DOC when I tried those. Something I've never had with 2C-B itself. Overall I'd pick this one over 2C-B 75% of the time though.
you make it sound like a very appealing chemical, royaltramp. you said you prefer the empathy, body high, and euphoria of bk-2cb more than that of 2cb... are there any qualities of 2cb that you prefer over bk-2cb? how long dose bk take to come on? 2cb has usually been pretty quick for me, for a phen....about 20-30 min. if i recall.
Aside from it being euphoric, I didn't really notice a specific character with Bk-2cb at ~150 mgs. In a sense, it's lack of definability, gradual build and duration, slightly reminded me of a more euphoric 2cp. The 'trip' took a legitimate 2 hours to escalate beyond initial alerts. The visuals seemed less defined and consistent than 2cb, however there were on occassion some interesting patterning of objects and color enhancement was present, everything looked really bright. There was also some halos and tracers off lights reminiscent of MDxx. I'd say it's perhaps a slightly stronger entactogen than 2cb but I don't know about empathogen. I wasn't really in a setting conducive to opening up but I didn't have any sway to really do so either, like I probably would have in similar circumstances as when on an Mdxx, my emotional framework felt very much on par with 2cb. The breeze blowing on my skin felt amazing, an impressive inner glow which developed several hours in remained fairly persistent and my body felt light and airy like 2cb. The whimsical nature of 2cb seemed diminished and there was more of a tendency to zone out on Bk-2cb , although they do share a capricious headspace. I wasn't particularly captivated by listening to music, it felt almost 'plastic' at times. I mostly listened to EDM though, perhaps something organic would have been more suitable. Because When I got home later in the trip, I played some guitar and thoroughly enjoyed that. I feel like if I were to take this at a show and I had options, I'd take this at a show where I could both sit and stand, because at times there was a sluggish feeling to it. Some man made objects in the environment seemed 'plastic' as well, which reminded me of impressions I've had on mescaline before. At this dose level, Bk-2cb doesn't display the visual fireworks of many of the 2cx compounds nor was it as strong as a catalyst for the empathy and ego softening of Mdxx compounds, but it was an enjoyable experience with a fair amount of interesting sensorial affects.
There are some intricate visuals on Bk-2cb when the dose is pushed around 200 mgs, particularly closed eyes. The side effects seem to increase as well, light headedness and slight nausea cycled with the euphoria and there was what seemed like some fairly pronounced vasoconstriction. Music sounded better on the higher dose as well. Definitely a hard head trip at the higher dose range.
Hey shermin... I remember seeing your posts alot "back in the day" when these forums were rockin.... Is this the same rc that killed alot of people ?? I remember there being a pinned post at top of this sythetic forum... But lost track... I have dosed 2c-b many times... But never the Bk-2cb... Of course it was possible to have taken at festivals being sold ad 2c-b... I have been out of scene myself.... I stick to the real deal now (LSD) 2c-p became one of my favorites at the time.... That and made 1000s of caps of 30mg 2c-i and 30mg 2c-e mix.... I loved those.... Sat around many bon fires under the southern stars doseing this.... Lol
hey mindbender! i remember you from "back in the day" too. shermin doesn't come around as often anymore as far as i know. i think the chem you are thinking of that killed people is bromo-dragonfly...misrepresented as 2cb? it was the owner of a popular RC vendor that died...it's a shame that i can't recall any of the details. i'm with you, never tried bk-2c-b, but i've taken 2c-b several times. still have a few doses saved away, but i've stuck to taking LSD for the last year or two of my tripping, and before than just LSD or miprocin (4-ho-mipt). 30 mg of 2ci PLUS 30 mg of 2ce??! damn...that is a hefty dose of 2ce alone. i've never tried 2ci, myself. 2ce was my first RC though, had quite a few experiences with it.
Hey Sherwin , been along while for me too..my other user was mindbender62... but it's not the same here anymore..but good good to see some old names
I found it considerably weaker and harder to dose than 2C-B. Had to take multiple doses just to get to the same place which felt very physically dangerous. Moreso than dosing 2CB alone. It did have a very pleasant MDA-like effects once it fully kicked in though. Mild 2+ visuals.
