Biden pardons people who aren't guilty? WTF?

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  1. 0nelove

    0nelove Member

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    I think this is pretty apolitical. I assume all politicians and most high level officials are totally corrupt on both sides- that doesn't surprise me.

    But is there any other way to see Biden pre-emptively pardoning extremely high level gov officials (Fauci, etc.) as anything other than an admission of guilt? How freaking stupid does Biden think we are?
     
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    Laker06 Senior Member

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    VERY VERY STUPID!! He knew they are guilty.
     
  3. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    Considering Our Beloved Leader's repeated threats to weaponize the DOJ (Department of Justice) to persecute his personal enemies, and his explicit threats to jail political opponents in general and people like Fauci and Cheney in particular, based upon your post, I suspect that no matter how stupid they think you are, it's a gross underestimation.
     
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  5. Laker06

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    Or his poor Uncle Ambrose, and his killers.
     
  6. goatrope

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    It's a precautionary move to prevent the new administration from going after those persons - whether they are innocent or not. With the pardon - they are innocent.
     
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  7. Jenna1995

    Jenna1995 Promiscuous and Daring!

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    I am not from your country, but wonder how a pardon can be issued if one has not been formally charged or convicted. Is it a blanket immunity for anything in the future? From now on it would seem that a President should just arbitrarily pardon anyone in his staff or family at the beginning of the four years?
     
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    Whatever it takes to thwart trumps bad intentions!:rage:
     
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    Did you only read the headline?
     
  10. Laker06

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    Presidential Pardons: Definition, Eligibility & Legal Help
    Jan 12, 2025 · It does not erase the conviction or mean the individual is innocent, but it removes specific legal disabilities and can restore civil rights lost due to the conviction.

    It doesn't mean their innocent--it basically means they got away with it.
     
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  12. Gilded_Splinters

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    Biden pardons people that aren’t guilty. WTF?

    Protection from the sworn revenge of the psychopath in the White House.

    Trump pardons people that are guilty. WTF?

    First promise he’s ever kept, misguided as it is.

    Any cop that supports Trump needs to hand his badge in today.
     
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    Deleted this comment because I was wrong in the way that I replied.
     
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  14. LenaSilk

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    Donald 'returned the favor' on Day 1 by pardoning 1500 'January 6' 'criminals', even the ones that had never been allowed (after 4 years!!) to have a fair and complete trial. But they were charged with so-called 'crimes' and Yes that is a huge difference.....

    Many of those Biden pardons will be challenged in court because, as you pointed out Jenna, they have never even been charged with any crime at all. Part of the challenge will be, as you also correctly pointed out, whether anyone in the world can be pardoned for 'all future crimes'....??? Hell no!! That is just insane.... which was just papa Joe being himself.
     
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  15. Gilded_Splinters

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    Lena,

    I think you quoted my post then retracted.

    I’m interested in what you had to say, so why don’t you take another crack at it please?

    Maybe we don’t agree. That’s actually fine and I can deal with it.

    Whatcha got?
     
  16. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Not only charged but found guilty and sentenced for insurrection.
     
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  17. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Examples:
    Ford pardoned Nixon, Carter pardoned Vietnam War draft evaders...before Nixon or the draft evaders were charged.
     
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  18. Gilded_Splinters

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    After having pleaded guilty in many cases.
     
  19. LenaSilk

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    Quoted from 'Distractify'? Kind of appropriate. Why not a more direct source?

    https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S2-C1-3-1/ALDE_00013316/
    Beyond textual limits, certain external constitutional and legal considerations may act as constraints on the power. For instance, the Court has indicated that the power may be exercised at any time after [an offense’s] commission, reflecting that the President may not preemptively immunize future criminal conduct.
     
  20. LenaSilk

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    I misread part of your post so I deleted my post. But if you believe this part....

    then why not believe that no cop should support a man who was found to have dozens of classified documents lying around for years in 3 different private residence locations (unguarded by anyone, unlike Mir-a-Lago which is continuously surrounded by SS agents) and some of those classified materials were from the years that he was a Senator when he didn't even have the right to remove classified materials from any government location and then take them home? That is just one tiny itsy bitsy illegal act that I can mention. He was 'pardoned' for that by some psycho-atrist due to his age and mental state....!!?!?!? Never mind that he bragged openly (it was on youtube where anyone could see and hear it) that he very improperly had someone in Ukraine fired because that someone didn't like his son. He was proud of doing that.

    I could go on and on and on, like illegally opening our borders so that anyone one at all could just walk into the the sovereign territory of the United States. But whoever has his or her mind already firmly set on hating someone that is not in his or her own political party, even while maintainng complete blindness to the miscreants and criminals in their own political party, then I would just be wasting more time and words.

    All of this is a waste of time and I don't even know why I bothered. Bye bye.
     
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