So im thinking the best combo would be Bk-MDMA and MDPV. Since methylone is closest to molly and with the addition of MDPV it would be more speedy resembling Molly. Any feedback or comments would be awesome. Please im not asking for facts im looking for experience with the two mixed together. Thanks
One part MDMA to one part MDMA, mixed so that the total combined dose is the same as the dose of MDMA you want to "recreate", and you should have an experience pretty close to MDMA.
^^LOL at RS^^ Yea, there is a thread for this in here already brother. Do a little search. I hear good thing about 6 and 5 apb combos. But no personal experience on that.
This thread comes up like once a month. Methylone + 6apb 5apb + 6apb creates it's own magic though and I'd recommend that.
I think methylone alone is probably closer to mdma than methylone + mdpv. I have never done mdpv, but know it's a straight stimulant, and considering mdma is fairly relaxed as far as stimulants go, I don't think you'd need to augment those effects to get close to the effects of a pure mdma experience.
Methylone + MDAI, maybe some quality 4-FA thrown in there too, or some 6-apb and 5-apb or some shit, but methylone + MDAI is pretty close
MDPV is an evil and shitty drug. It's personality is much more coke-like and malevolent than MDMA and would probably and with drugs like these I think its important to take into account their personalities. MDMA is more motherly and sweet. The Methylone is a good idea and has a somewhat similar personality to MDMA. I personally like it, but its still no substitute. I think the closest you can get to MDMA's personality, if not its direct effects, is Mescaline.
Actually 4-EMC with methylone and MBDB is a nice one, or maybe put in MDAI instead of the methylone, or 4-fa and MDAI ... lol. Haven't tried it but my guess would be that 4-FA 4-EMC and MDAI would be super nice, maybe some MBDB in there too, I just didn't add the methylone cause its more speedy and causes more vasoconstriction I think than the others, but I dunno. Or maybe 4-FA 6-APB 4-EMC and MDAI, maybe with some MBDB too and you're good to go. That would probably be better than true Molly. even takin one out and your good. but I took some 4-EMC, redosed with 4-EMC and MBDB, and then redosed shortly after again with 4-EMC and methylone and I was rollin balls it was really nice, methylone made it a little talkative speedy like though but I very much enjoyed it.
Mescaline can feel close but problem is its schedule 1 as well and often harder to come by than mdma. I am glad I found my substitute when need be, I can't be trying like 3-4 chems to recreate mdma.
Yeah I did notice a pretty significant mood elevation from mescaline but it seems more like 25I mood elevation, though I think 25I might provide a greater lift but I don't know for sure because i've only tried mescaline a couple times, but I don't generally think of it in comparison to the full blown euphoria that you can get from MDMA with fully replenished serotonin, or even from most of the entactogen class drugs. Some people say that they get more euphoric from 2ct7 than mdma but I guess I react differently or I interpret the feelings differently than some because for me it was mood elevation for sure but mainly an altered headspace (as in how it affected my mood and the way I reacted to people/things) that I enjoyed, which I don't usually notice as much on most other psyches, or at least in a unique way than others. I definitely understand not wanting to mix 3-4 entactogens, I was just saying that if you were to it would be super euphoric amazingness, but I think you could recreate an experience very close to MDMA with a combo of 2 others, like MBDB and 4-EMC have great synergy, they're both pretty mellow and easier on the body yet really euphoric. And as with any entactogen that I've heard of as far as I know, adding MDAI to the mix always makes things better. I'd get some probably but its more expensive. Honestly most any of hte better entactogens with MDAI would probably be pretty close, I know M1 with MDAI was, but still definitely different.
Be careful mixing caths. Besides from GB, I have heard from other people and 5 and 6 APB combo is very close to MDMA with a trippy twist.
Yall this sucks. All I really want is an alternative to MDMA that isn't illegal yet in the U.S. But MDPV and Methylone were emergency scheduled by the DEA a few months ago. Scheduled straight to a schedule 1. Fuck these people! They waste so much of our tax money to deprive us of our civil liberties. How can you amend our laws to the point where agencies can ban a substance before a legitimate investigation can be done on it. I'm ranting, sorry, but does anyone know of any MDMA alternatives that are still legal in the U.S.? or at least not Schedule 1 or 2? Thanks.........time to smoke a cigarette.
