being "enlightened"

do you even think it's real? what seperates an enlightened bloke from one who isn't? and finally, regardless of how clear and "advanced" someone's mental and spiritual faculties are, aren't they still only a human (a neurotic jumble of obtuse cells running around, still mostly subject to deep-set biological quirks)?

 

It's not a "being" it's a continuous state of "becoming".

 

see, I like that. way better than those really padded, grandiose explanations I got last night..

my real problem is that some define it as an ultimate end, and once you've reached it you can essentially "do no wrong". I'd rather just be a drop of water and ignore all that wordy, human claptrap altogether.

 

All enlightenment is is a pretty word.

 

Exactly, I think of it as levels of enlightenment with no top rung, at least I do not conceive of one; then again, how would I know if I haven't gotten there, yet if I did, I prolly wouldn't be here to tell you about it.

 

Being enlightened? Hmmm.
I would say the only "end" to anything is when you
accept universal love as the only reality. What is
real anyway? Love obviously, without it there is no
existance. Love is the glue binding atoms together
to form your host for consciousness, love is what
makes you dance in harmony with existance, and
love is what takes you out of the body back into
the Source, whatever you want to call, envision,
or describe that Source to be. But I think it's just
Love

 

i think enlightened people are capable of getting out of their own mindset and imagining how other people feel and think...and think it's important enough to go to the trouble to do so.

 

Well I dont think that's enlightenment entirely, because
I was blessed (cursed :tongue: ) with this personality
trait you mention as a child and it grows in me like a
tree as time goes on. As a little kid I told my mom
"Mom, I feel bad for the ground because we have to
walk on it"
And now, just last week I saw my son asleep on my
couch hugging his Thomas Train toy and I just started
crying because, well it was so innocent and beautiful.
There is a word for this and its not enlightenment,
though I think its a natural aspect of the human beings
who will eventually blossom out into enlightened beings,
and the word is Empathy. -

 

Unless we die we will never be enlightened beings. Sorry to break lots of bubbles here.

 

Yeah, I agree with Bird.

Many good people spend their life looking for this "enlightenment" in many different ways, wasting all their energy on that... instead of on just living.

I think that the closest we can come to enlightenment is learning how to just live carefree and be completely comfortable with oneself.

 

I was thinking about the same thing last night!

 

....why cherea.....

 

Because there is no ultimate thing I have learned. And I'm 32.

 

nah I was asking why you bumped a thread from november. the other part is cool, i basically agree.

edit: make that november 07.

 

I was stalking zen's shit.

 

For me, being enlightened doesn't mean learning one ultimate thing. Being enlightened is the willingness to learn and think for oneself, not believing everything someone else tells you, but finding answers for yourself. Just my opinion.

 

being enlightened is following what you need to follow to grow and become something that can grow.

and usefully synthesize.

 

I like that.

 

that's how i think of it, but there are more rungs to be had after shedding this fragile human meatshell.

 

Damn, I still agree with something I said 2 years ago.

Go me.