Been Thinking For AWhile about something

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by PEACE-TRAIN, Jun 19, 2005.

  1. PEACE-TRAIN

    PEACE-TRAIN Member

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    I Been thinking and wondering about something for a long time i see it alot in school, even out in public places why is it " NORMAL " or typical behavior for a person to MAKE FUN or make that person STAND OUT from everybody elese rather then embrace that person in a love and caring matter ????

    is that the " COOL " Think to do or is it a way of saying that the person making Fun of the other person is insecure or jealous in some shape or form ??

    Even as Little kids

    Is It a Culture ?? :confused:

     
  2. Orangez

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    Haha, I also thought about that.. I can't come up with an answer though. :)
     
  3. spooner

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    People don't get made fun of for standing out for good things... they get made fun of for standing out for bad reasons (lack of social skills, whatever, there's a million more).

    Its merely one more extension of preying on the weak.
     
  4. Bassist

    Bassist Gate crasher!

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    Personally, I think little kids can be unbearably cruel without really grasping what they're doing to the other person.

    Most teenagers just feel they have to go along with the crowd, so they isolate those who are different from them, whatever the situation may be. Sadly, it's part of human nature.
     
  5. PEACE-TRAIN

    PEACE-TRAIN Member

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    But Spooner isnt Everybody WEAK at Something ???
     
  6. marymicrogram

    marymicrogram Member

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    They're just asserting their superiority is all...
     
  7. Capt. Jack

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    bucause they hate who they are and take it out on other people
    i think
     
  8. PEACE-TRAIN

    PEACE-TRAIN Member

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    So Is That how Society is Built ??? on Hate and Greed ????
     
  9. sodabandito

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    Well, unfortunately it IS way too common for people to make fun of others, especially as children and adolescents. It is NOT a sign of superiority, it IS a sign of ignorance, which happens to be a negative quality that ALL humans have. We are all different in one way or another, and difference is not WEAKNESS, but STRENGTH....

    Also, the next time you "pick on" someone, especially if you are in high school or in that age range, just remember what happened in places like COLUMBINE. I mean do you really ever know what someone else is capable of?? Do you want to be the "one that pushes another over the edge"??? Just something to think about.
     
  10. spooner

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    I wasn't justifying it, just explaining it.

    I don't particularly care though. It's a natural part of growing up.
     
  11. PEACE-TRAIN

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    Why do people test or push other people ?? just to get a rise ???

    got so many things floating in my head man
     
  12. sodabandito

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    They do it to steal energy from others....to make themselves feel powerful
     
  13. persephonewillow

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    i'm sure my idea won't be terribly popular, maybe a bit whacky, but i'm putting it out there anyway.

    i think it's a form of social conditioning. and it's not 'natural'. kids are often put in their place by schools/institutions, they're graded and found worthy or not. they're classed. they know this... the 'dumb' kid knows he's not 'worthy'. the 'smart' kid knows he's a social class above others (i mean this in the sense that 'smart' kids have the pressure of staying the best, not that they think themselves better, kwim?).

    i think kids picking on other kids is a way to vent the frustration of being classed and categorized and controlled so young.

    besides that, kids are pretty much powerless in a school... they can't, or are afraid, to stand up to the authorities that rule them day in and day out, so they take it out on fellow students because they know the trouble they might get in for calling little John Doe 'stupid', etc, is less than they'll get into for standing up to teachers and principals.

    and i can't say it's just kids... i've heard adults talk some serious crap about other adults. i guess what we *really* learn in school stays with us.

    -z
     
  14. teepi

    teepi living my dream

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    Kids naturally want to be part of the "crowd".
    They will go along with the pack to feel accepted.

    Even if they do not like what is going on, they will join in as to not be ostracized themselves.
    "crowd mentality"...

    Alot of kids are insecure...they are trying to figure out how they fit into the scheme of things, its hard being a kid, alot of pressure...to make decisions, act responsible, listen, worry about what they will do when they eneter the real world etc,
    And some deal with it by taking the attention off themselves and putting it on someone else...aggression..seeking out someone they view weaker than themselves in order to control the situation and assert themselves in a situation they create because they may feel out of control over other aspects of their own life.

    Some are so worried that if others saw them for what they truely were that they themselves would be picked on, and by pointing out a weaker person to the bunch it turns attention away from them...this happens alot with kids who are questioning their own sexuality, they may fear that they are gay so they pick on known gays to show how "not gay' they are themselves.

    When we reach a certain maturity (some may never do this..lol) we start to be able to celebrate that which may make us "diferent" in others eyes and recognize it for uniquiness...that which makes us like no other...and that is the beauty of being "different" from everyone else.
     
  15. Smerfish

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    Actually I was "preyed" upon and pissed alot of people off because I did stand up for the under dog, your not going to pick on some kid who is to scared to stand up for themselves in front of me cause I will confront it... and I actually wound up confronting teachers about the situation to which is why Im not longer in public school havent been for quite some time now because its all political/economical bull shit... it drives me nuts I totally agree that we should all work together instead of stepping on each other we'd succeed alot more and I think there'd be alot less stress
     
  16. spooner

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    meh, people gotta learn to stand up on their own
     
  17. PEACE-TRAIN

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    people are afriad to stand up on there own because there afriad of what people are gonna say and think
     
  18. natural23

    natural23 Senior Member

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    People will make fun of you or worse because they see something in you that causes them to see something in themselves that make them feel uncomfortable. In other words people, all people, have evoked awarenesses of themselves when they experience other people. Often times people have not learned that one of the golden rules is to continuously learn about yourself. This is what meditation and all good spirtitual art is about - continuously learning about the self.

    When someone makes fun of you, even though it is "wrong," it is a very significant opportunity. This is, in part, because we all have expectations that are very complex and subtle. Just as with the source of poetry these are originally experiences in our minds that are not in spoken or written laugauge but, instead, are in "the langauge of feelings." So listen to yourself by noting your experience. This means practice
    listening to your experience by noting what you can, noting what "comes to mind."
    When you do this you will see that too much information is passing by to verbally
    note. As this happens note that too much is going by to note and continue to note experience. Note anything: "this is silly"; "I am afraid"; "I want peace"; "I am embarrassed"; "there is too much going by to verbally note; "I have this sensation" etc, etc. If you are focused and have some faith you will see that the mind "jumps over" into strongly conversing with itself in the "langauge of feelings." With a little practice you do this at anytime; while you are having conversations, while you are walking through the world, while someone is making fun of you. Buddists call this Vipassana meditation, its complement is another form of medation called Shamatha
    meditation - look it up. Usually Shamatha is practiced first but it OK to do Vipassana first - you will find Shamatha as well. In my opinion many other religions teach the
    same thing in other forms, by other names.

    You will find that part of what you note are your wishes, that is your prayers. These are very important and they can help bring about good. As you get to know yourself much better you can act as a catalyst for good change, bringing those who try to hurt to good change. Be balanced and wise even with those who seem to try to hurt you. Stay focused on good.

    "Blessed are the peacemakers .." Jesus

    Another note is that, to me, all you folks at this site are wonderful and your hopes for good are truly the hope for the world; even if this seems, that is appears, to happen in small ways. Keep up the excellent work.

    David
    natural23
     
  19. spooner

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    That makes the pussies, really, and not even worth standing up for.
     
  20. natural23

    natural23 Senior Member

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    The reaction to want to "get back" comes from place within us that is
    trying to heal, trying to become strong. The honorable person has the
    wisdom to openly, honestly, consider his own motivation. You will be
    strongest in any situation if you deeply believe in the correctness,
    the goodness, of your intent.
     

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