bananas while tripping

Is it true that if you are tripping on (either mush, or L) that bananas can make you feel better-calm you down, if so, how does that work?

Is there any type of food, or other source that can do that for you besides drinking or smoking? Is there anything that makes it more intense (orange juice, ect.) or is that all rumor?

 

mushies dissolved in OJ makes the beginning of the trip more intense, with a shorter duration....

 

works well if you drink a glass or two before you eat them as well.

 

Does anybody know the science behind this, or if it's even 100% true? I very highly doubt that it works, as Vitamin C (the only thing in orange juice that would be remotely psychoactive) has nothing to do at all with serotonin. I've also heard that OJ will end a trip, which makes me think that it's all placebo.

As far as bananas making you calm down, sure, why not? I mean, it's something comforting, so it's always gonna make you feel better. It's the same as if you got a warm blanket or ate your favorite meal.

The best potentiator I've ever found for any hallucinogen is to give someone else some for free. Not only will you have a very grateful friend to trip with, but if that friend ends up learning something from the trip, well, you can't imagine the joy that comes from that.

 

well the acids in the OJ basically just dissolve the mushies making the come up more quick and intense i guess, due to quicker absorbtion through your stomach.

 

but is there any type of food that makes any change in a trip?

 

I took a double dose and Im drinking coffee to make my buzz more comfortable.. I dont go out of normal lifes pleasures.. If I like ice cream I eat it tripping (fact) I did this morning, I road my bike throught the woods and got a butter finger ice cream bar,< I wasnt going to but I saw em in the cooler and they said look here dude..
and it was great.. tasted a little freezer burned on the end but It was still good to make me happy and my trip more fun... while my buzz now isnt all it could be cause I dosed last night.. I thinks I like it more visuals come and go. But idk, some thought jumping, and I keep forgetting to smoke weed.. I think Ill do that now.

 

But do you have any hard evidence to back this up? I've heard this plenty of times. Personally, I don't think the citric acid in glass of OJ is gonna make a bit of difference once it gets to the HCl in your stomach.

 

Lots of people do the lemon tek, where you squirt a lemon over 7 grams and let it sit for about ten minutes, stirring the mush occasionally. This should only be done with bone dry powdered mushrooms (coffee grinder). What happens is that the citric acid breaks much of the psilocybin into psilocin (so your stomach doesnt have to) causing a trip with a quicker onset and perhaps more visually intense and shorter duration. Toss some hot tea of your choice in there and sip it slowly over a period of a half hour. Beer works too, Heffeweisens being the obvious candidate for such a concoction, but we psychonauts are a resourceful bunch, so I imagine even whiskey would work, though I wouldnt attempt it myself. Proceed with caution, this can get out of hand. Maybe stick to eating banannas on an 8th until you're ready for the 1/4 lemon tech beer combo.

 

If you sip mushroom tea instead of directly eating all of them at once, how does the trip change? I could see it being less intense, but do you think it might be nice to have a light trip and add to it by sipping on the tea, or would that just be a waste?

 

it's not a waste at all, if you're looking for intensity, you can always chug the tea. for me, it comes on much quicker than eating the shrooms, usually within 15 minutes you start coming up, and another 15 it really starts getting interesting. sipping it, it'll take a bit longer, the come up isn't so intense, and best of all, it doesn't taste like shit!

i like putting a tsp or so of lemon juice in the tea water before i put the powdered shrooms, for the reasons listed above.

 

Once again, you guys are NOT proving anything. This is even hard to believe, as psilocybin isn't turned to psilocin in the stomach. It happens in the kidneys.

I want like medical journals, real scientific evidence, not just a bunch of people going "Yep, uh-huh. It works!"

 

no i dont have any hard evidence, so for now here are some more opinions...

 

Show some respect. When you're looking for medical journals and real scientific evidence, while dismissing the subjective experiences and theories of others, keep in mind this quote from Alexander Shulgin in Tikhal, on this same topic:

'On the topic of psilocybin and psilocin, one of the most frequent questions I am asked is, "Isn't it true that psilocybin is immediately converted to psilocin in the blood stream, and so the two chemicals are in essence identical, molecule for molecule?" At this moment I always suppress a brief sense of mental fragmentation, with the automatic reply, "Where is the evidence that psilocybin is converted to psilocin in man?" If it exists, I certainly do not know of it. This clears my conscience. I really do not know the answer. But I have a tremendously strong suspicion that it really does. Any such ester, be it the phosphate, the sulfate, or the acetate, would all be easily split to the archetypal indolol by the ubiquitous esterases in the body. I do indeed believe, in my inner heart, that they all act upon the brain as the same end product, psilocin.'

 

No. It's all crap. Not going to enhance your trip with anything besides more shrooms or acid. Weed helps a bit, but that's about all.

I'm no expert at helping people come down from bad trips. But I call BS on anyone besides a medical professional that claims to know of a 'come down' food, or drink. If it's supported by medical documentaion, then I'll believe it.

 

Beer seems to help some people with comedowns. One problem with relying too heavily on medical documentation is that you may end up saying one thing while believing another (as illustrated in the Shulgin quote I posted above).
Your opinions tend to be rather convincing though, medical documentation aside, what are your thoughts on the lemon tek Salmon4me?

 

Its all fucking mental. fucking eating a banana or drinking oj to "improve" your trip. If you think it will work it will fucking work. the only thing you need to do is beleive in it.

 

I think that is placebo, not saying it doesnt work but just as how pain is psychological, placebo does work.

Example. Many of us think that ginger calms the stomach if your are having a stomach ache or nausea. THATS WHY IT WORKS

There was a test with fake ginger pills and real ginger pills
Some people were given pills and told some weren't told
Some were given FAKE pills and some weren't told

Those who thought had ginger faked their mind into calming their stomach contractions
Those who even had ginger but didnt think they took ginger still had the stomach aches

If you strongly believe that a substance will produce a certain effect, often times it will
Thats what I think about orange juice and all that other controversial stuff

 

4 bananas, 1/2 cup dark rum, 1/2 cup fresh orange juice, 2 Tbs brown sugar, a slosh of white rum, seasoning of nutmeg, cinnamon and allspice. Split the bananas in two and put in a frying pan, add the brown rum and orange juice, sprinkle on the sugar and spices, simmer for about 5 minutes. Pour on the white rum and ignite.

 

That recipe is clearly placebo. Bananas taste like bananas, whether or not you set them on fire.