Bad trips are the key to finding yourself

In my experience of psychadelics, lsd, 2c-e, and doc, I used to love trippin and seeing things differently. And infact the way you trip is all in your head. I started to get scared of things in a recent trip on 2c-e combined with doc, and to get outta my bad trip I had to face things that really bother me in my "real" life. Because I would see myself going crazy worrying about things while trippin, and in fact it was my subconcious tellin me how I was in real life. Ive used alot of drugs over the years, and I hated it but I felt that I couldnt get over it. So in my bad trip I had to ask myself why am I doin this to myself, and I found the answer. Happieness is on the inside and I dont need to have drugs to make me happy. Before I ever did any drugs I had this pre concieved idea that all drugs like weed make you trip. And thats what I wanted with drugs, and now that I had a bad trip that scared the shit outta me Ive freed myself from them. We ultimitly fear death and not knowing whats next, and rather than harp on these things, id rather live my life and do what makes me naturally happy, which is study psychology. Our mind is a very powerful tool that we dont know how to use, psychadelics do teach you how to use your mind to do what ever you want in your trip, but the answer is that its all in your head. To prove my theory to myself five days later I took a huge dose of 2c-e insuffalated, started to trip and then talked my way back to "normal" Why do you think that people can not eat for days and be healthy and we have to over eat, its what we've been tought. For example, when were born we dont know that fire burns so we have a natural pain to protect us and to teach us that it does so we dont die or damage our bodies, and at the same time you see these people that would take needles and knifes and do things that should cause pain, and they feel no pain. Its because they know it isnt going to kill them and whatever dont kill us makes us stronger. I have found my inner strength, and I no longer need drugs to "escape" But in no way am I talking down psychadelics at all, cuz without them I could of been hooked on crack or something if I didnt have this experience. Psychadelics recreationally are bad, but if they were ever to be used at a therapy level, they could be the best thing to ever happen to someone. So next time you want to trip do it by yourself and use learys "set and setting" theory and it is possible you can find what makes you happy.

 

ye nice man. 100% agree. After figuring out that everything is in my head and applying that to my mind etc i figured out that your really in it alone. Reality is conceived in your mind, YOUR mind - people rely on others to much i think because their minds are too weak. I dont look down on those people or anything like that, i have come to the understanding that its not their fault - its the result of the world we live in. Also, i have had a strong affirmation that no one really knows whats going on - its as if the whole world is just going along with whatever, i dont think anyone in normal reality fathom anything - again not their fault. But the whole idea of really been in this race alone is true i think, the world is your mind - in your daily life, all that happens is worlds colliding kinda thing..iduno. Another thing i have found is reading people not by their face, attire or mannerisms but by their mind - its almost like i see people, as a mind - not as a person..been interesting. bleh

I had more to say but to the exact extent of how i was going to say it has been lost in the eternity of time. im tired. over uni. but like your hustle.

 

Reading people by their mind, interesting. For example yesterday i hanged with a 10 but her mind is a 0, not exagerating at all!

"i dream therefore i am not"

 

in my experiences, i've learnt that psychadelics help you in discovering yourself and finding happiness. They are the only drugs worth doing...It is not true that a bad trip defines who you are in real-life. That is just abuse of the drug. Everything in life is about intentions, so are drugs. Unlike psychadelics,other drugs are abused by taking too much in a short period of time, what people don't understand is that psychadelics are abused in a whole different way. Psychadelics show a person beautiful visions, make music sound more alive and create pure emotions if shared with the right people. By taking psychadelics for any other reason, you are abusing them! If using them to escape, then you already know something in your life is bothering you, it is long proven that if you take drugs on a bad state of mind, nothing good will come out of it. What i am trying to say is, don't take drugs to make you happy, you have to be a happy person in order to enjoy them. Its a shame that, only a few people take them for the right reasons. The only reason to take them is for the out-of-body experience, the visuals, the sounds. Everything else you need to fix by yourself and if you try and fix a problem by taking drugs, that is where bad trips and addiction comes from...you have to ask yourself, what do i want this to do for me? It cannot be to make you happy, you don't need drugs for that. It cannot be to make you confident, you don't need drugs for that! In order to enjoy the experience, you need to be in the right state of mind. That way you will not have demons, addiction or anything like that....it surprizes me how someone can say, i take them to fight my demons but i don't need them when i'm happy...everybody, if you don't know yourself then this is the best drug recipe you will get:
first write down all the positive things the drug can do for you.
then make sure you are happy with your life
then write down what you would like to gain from the drug
lastly combine them and you are guaranteed to enjoy it for what it is there for..

STOP FOOLING YOURSELF
MEDICAL DRUGS ARE THERE TO FIX A PROBLEM, PSYCHADELICS ARE THERE TO ADD TO HAPPINESS!!!

(P.L.U.R ) if you don't have it within you, do not expect it from somewhere else!

 

In my opinion there is no such thing as a "bad trip". It just another fucking label society has made for us. I think sometimes trips can be unsettleing because too much truth is being realeased into our minds.

 

That's exactly why "bad trips" are not bad at all. They are teaching you about yourself so much. And when you finish dealing with yourself happiness comes. And that's the happiness you always had with you but over the years you nicely layered all the problems, insecurities, complexes,... etc around you and you hid yourself behind them. But then you take psychedelics and they put it in front of your face and you realize how much you were lieing yourself maybe even played the victim game.
You don't really have to use it just by yourself there is a beauty in having different people around. Sometimes they can show you something that you missed and vice versa.

 

^^^^niceley put. its calles a "bad trip" because of how horrifying it can be when your in the middle of it. since june ive done psilocybin mushrooms approx 9 times. ive had a bad trip during part of the experience on the majority of my trips. your right though after i come back from a bad trip i feel almost the best i ever have. it feels as if my brain has been wiped clean of all the bullshit we have to deal with in our daily lives. i simply feel very clean after a shroom trip. good stuff everybody thanks for your posts

 

yes, im starting to find this out myself - its amazing! a long road ahead of me though..

 

Bad trips exist man. Anyone who knows there psychedelics knows bad trips exist. Even Hoffman adivsed carful use of psychedelics.

Sure bad trips are for good meaning and all, but no one in their right mind enjoys being on one. THey are kind of like a hurricane though, everythings calm where you are, but where ever you look theres chaos. After the weathers nice, you feel good, but theres dibree laying all over.

 

ye..i guess it depends who you are really. ay..

 

On one of my bad trips for some reason had to do with the state of being "Fucked up" physically, it just seemed very dirty to me in my mind than usual. I've always had good intentions for using my psychedelics, but a lot of people just talk about how fucked up they like getting on the weekend, and the drugs they've used to accomplish it; which is annoying to hear about every single monday at school of my life by kids who seem to drone around.

Idk, it just seems sad that people enjoy getting pretty much "out of it", and for a minute I thought I was one of them types of drug users while I was on the psychedelic. Really caused distress but the trip was overall a positive experience. Not to mention I couldn't believe the visuals I was having, everything I looked at lost it'd third dimension and stretched to the point where black would fill the void caused by the stretching... all off of a 5-10mg snort of 2C-E. Only had one trip that has compared and it was my bad trip on LSD blotters I had in early september.

I kind of like bad trips more sometimes to be honest. Sometimes good trips just seem like a weak time, unless it's outside with nature in the summer making epiphany's about everything around me. But when i'm in somebodys house chilling on their bed or something while music is blaring, then sometimes it gets weird.

 

Bad trips are voluntarily induced psychotic episodes. And yes, I totally agree, I've learnt a lot about myself... and how to not have bad trips any more! Set and Setting are KEY.

 

Can I second that? These drugs have a purpose!

I've seen people trip, trip, and trip again and they NEVER GOT THE MESSAGE. In those that **understand why**, there is a special quality deep inside.

 

Well done, young grasshopper - this is only the beginning

 

and how do you think you detect a person's mind? it is through their face, attire, mannerisms, and any/all other expressions they make or show.

 

twiz, when i did mushies by myself in my room, it was going pretty well until the sun stopped shining and the rain came down. and my trip took a turn for the worse. i have a whole bunch of my friends pictures on my walls and looked at them and started thinking that they really werent my friends and that i was lame person. what do you think that means?

 

Well possibally low self-esteem/self-image. You know that they are your friends and you value them, otherwise you wouldnt have pictures of them on your walls. Were you thinking "how could these people even like me, im so lame?" I used to think that as well when I had depression, but the truth is that they do love you, you just dont love yourself.

 

I dont have Friends, I have Family..

 

Whoop Whoop!!! haha mcl. So you gonna make it to this years gathering?

 

It really depends on the trip for me. On mushrooms I always realize how fucked up the world is and how unnatural and fake most things and people are. This realizations comes up almost every time I eat boomers and it usually just makes me feel depressed and hopeless about this country.
On acid my trips are more introspective and can really help me change and find parts of myself that aren't quite settled right.