yep thats the future, no fashion, luxury, latest this and that....... simple food, simple living (on a material level), ok maybe w some high teck stuff and improvment, communication is kinda vital, but all this shit about cool things and clothes and bla bla bla..... lets start to see how basic and high tech you can get at the same time....................
Doubt people can do without it. Their lives are based on all of these insignificant materials. I wish I could go to a place without all of this stuff so I could just have a simple conversation with someone.
they will when they have to. and having to may be what it takes to survive one of these days. oil will run out one of these days. if not my lifetime someone else's. then a lot of people might get kind of hungry for a while. those that survive might just have a better idea what's important. gratify the immagination yes, that's what makes life worth living. but trying to impress each other, that stupid load of crap gets dumped in a hurry when it comes down to the nitty meets the gritty. there's probably places you can go now. well i know there is. the dollar worshippers don't want you to believe it's possible, and if they was easy to find that be twisted back into gratuitous conventionalty. in this day. but in times to come. with people comming out of decades or so of people diein off from not gettin enough to eat, and i'm not talking about places where that's been chronic in the past, but where people are realatively well off now, or think they are, cause that got so much stuff they forget there's a nature out there that all their stuff and their survival too ultimately comes from. every era's got something to look forward to and i wish i could be arround to see commin out the other side that one. i know what i'd like to live like. allways talkin about it so much you probably already know. solar cells, windmills, hydro, computers, refrigerators, little trains, no cars, no highway maintainence and no gas stations. people livin in em maybe. old rusted out hunks of iron and plastic. probably have to live close to sources of power to have any. no one to maintian the big high tension interties. probably burn candles to save the power for the computer. probably have to do a lot of walking, but if everybody did there's be plenty of nice places to sit down and not everybody tearin em all up. no drivin a hundred miles in to work. walk a half to a couple of miles maybe. ride a trolly or a little train if you're luckey enough to live where there are any. maybe some new kinds of institutions that take the place of having to have banks and money. craftufacturing centers, like public libraries for tools and places to make things. mathom houses, streight out of tolkin. a bit like cashless thrift stores. lots of things won't all chainge the same way different places. places becoming really different from each other. so much so standard names for idiologies become meaningless. as if they hadn't always been to begin with. maybe somebody will start being nice again to the little spirit that lives down by the creek. instead of telling everyone else what to believe or to have to believe or pretend to believe the same things. oh i suppose there'll still be a few nuts wanting to strong arm everybody. but i suspect, just suspect, they won't be the things are so very many places. there are ways, forgotten often by all but indiginous cultures, how to avoid having everything end up with bully boys getting their way all the time. i've had people tell me they thought that would be going back to the cave. caves sound pretty good to me. anyway the're beein sillyer then they realize to call it that. =^^= .../\...
there are three things we all know are going to happen, but when is anybody's guess and all of them happening in one same preassumed year is a wee bit of one hell of a long shot. running out of oil, the dollar collapsing, and global warming. the latter is already ongoing, the first is a matter of time and the middle is as inevitably eventual as the decline and fall of every other world power there has ever been or ever will be. tecnology could make all of us free just as it's making all of us slaves. it's not the hammer, it's the brain behing the hand that holds the hammer. it's our backward headed cultural values that put trying to impress each other ahead of universal abundance and the big lie that ANY idiology, form of government, economic theory or system of belief doesn't become just another damd tyranny when prioritised ahead of the kind of world we all have to live in that is why tecnology gets used in the ass backward way it so often is and evolves in the direction of facilitating doing so. there is a sort of market force that steers the direction things evolve in, that neither begins nor ends with little green pieces of paper, though that is often, and again by no means always, the means by which it is communicated, but rather is generated collectively by the priorities we individualy actualy live by, even when we coerce ourselves into believing they are something other then they are bacause some belief or something else tells us that they are. that's the irrisistable force. but the immovable object is the reality of nature. that things like oil DO run out. that things like dumping too much carbon into the air and ocean over too short a period of time DOES chainge global weather patterns signifigantly. to the point now where it no longer takes rocket science for the average joe sixpack to observe them and not be able to deny their existence even to himself. so chainging, things do chainge. our individual human lives are too short to directly observe a lot of the major things that do. making a big whoopie about some year like 2012 or any other ain't got diddly to do with it. but over time things do chainge and cannot help doing so. =^^= .../\...
