Babies are agnostic

Babies are agnostic because they have never heard of a god so dont know whether one exists or not -

 

That may be the most intelligent thing i've ever heard come out of any ones mouth in my life. Thank you for making my day.

 

must admit I took the idea from the first paragraph here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism
it blew me away too when I read that - strange thought isnt it ?
I really was like you, over the moon when I read that !!!

 

Excellent

Have thought much on the 'tabula rasa' of babies...

The agnostic perspective is a new one... has much wisdom

Occam

 

innocence is indeed agnostic, and when the revealers of beliefs say: "be as little children", i always figgured this is had to be what they could possibly have been
really talking about.

no assumptions labeling every thing "good" or "bad", but looking with eyes of wonder upon all of the diversity that simply "is".

in time we come to learn that some things have consiquences we don't enjoy or desire,
and that things we don't see can also exist, just like when mommy goes into another room,
too bad more of us didn't remember, that other room, when we finaly got to see it,
didn't much resemble what we might have assumed or immagined about it.

whatever is nontangable is such an "other room" which would make so much more sense
to explore with eyes of wonder, then to make preassumptions that have one chance in infinity.

i do believe those other rooms are out there, just as they were when we were infants
and likewise that they are just as likely to bear no resemblence to what anyone claims
to KNOW about them

ah well, and if the're not the're not, but it sure makes no sense to expect them, if they
do exist, to resemble what anyone thinks they know about them. the nontangable ones
that is.

=^^=
.../\...

 

You have a good mind themnax

 

Thier Mother is thier God

 

No just a woman - they dont pray and dont know what a god is

 

Yes, with that assumption they are also illiterate, lawless, germ infested, grotesque, and putrid. I've known babies that would crap right on your floor then bite you if you tell them anything! I say down with babies! LOL

 

They are also free of the bible which teaches that shit is an ungodly thing, when it is a natural process, Sex is dirty, some people are not worthy because they believe something different etc etc etc. Also they are free from the worry that they will not make it into heaven - god of the bible doesnt even sanction giving babies a christian burial on the basis they havent been infected by the disease of religion - when all babies expect is to be treated humanely and to be fed
what babies need is to remain untainted by all that ..... "stuff"
(anglicans and catholics alike - hate the idea of babies untainted expectations)

 

Columbo

Well said

Occam

 

How do you know what they've heard of or not? We can't presume to know what the baby experiences in the womb, and what about past lives????

 

Mary

Yes past lives may be..

But as human religions are human.
How would an unborn child be exposed to such?

Do u think a christian god reads out scripture to unborn children?
That have no language, no reality but the womb?
No Umwelt but visual darkness and the light of their mothers love.

Occam

 

Well you see Occam, that's where we disagree, I believe in reincarnation and the unchanged nature of the soul, so obviousy the baby would have been exposed to some form of religious belief in a past life.

 

Mary

what if the past life was so far back there were no religions?
Say 5000bc


Occam

 

Mary..u want to talk.. im at nemesis@westnet.com.au [msn]

 

Columbo...What are you talking about? S*** is an ungodly thing? Seriously...Are you okay? The Bible doesn't say sex is dirty. The part about people being unworth because they believe something different...That's sort of what you believe...Isn't it? Your rambling is off the charts. I know you hate the idea but I'm going to pray for you.

 

The concept of God or gods goes back to the Paleolithic era it is an enduring part of human culture.

This temple/ tomb is from the new stone age, Note the trinity of spirals on the entrance stone.

 

Agree, religion is as old as man - so is the idea of a god/gods....

 

whats your point? So what if gods have been around since that time? I cant see what the relevence is?

pray for something good to happen - then if it happens we can see if there is one or not- or just pray for something simple like that god makes the clock we have bought that was built in the 1930's work again without any human fixing it ! If that happens anytime soon I will convert to christianity - otherwise I may convert to being a voodooist