ayahuasca questions ?

Discussion in 'DMT' started by ChrisFromScotland, Nov 17, 2010.

  1. ChrisFromScotland

    ChrisFromScotland Lang may yer lum reek

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    Ive been looking into ayahuasca lately and i am struggling to find out about dosages as most of the stuff ive been reading is for if your making litres of the stuff.

    I am interested in just using some chacruna and caapi for the first time and ive managed to source these ingredients quite cheap. Most of the online shops i use sell in packs of 25g of plant matarial so if i were to use 25g of p.viridis how much caapi would i need, the caapi i was planning on getting is powdered though its available in chunks also whats best here?

    Also ive read that the DMT content in chacruna can vary quite a bit so is there anyone out there that has used this plant a good few times if so can you estimate the average DMT content.

    Any good links would be appreciated here too, cheers

    Chris
     
  2. Spicey Cat

    Spicey Cat DMT Witch (says husband)

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    I haven't done it, but I know a number of regular users. These recipes are kinda complex, but worth it I hear. Here's what my friend gave me:

    I highly suggest making enough for 4-6 people EVEN if you are the only one that will be partaking of the brew. This ensures that if your first dose is not enough you can drink another dose. Extra can be saved in the freezer in a water bottle for years.

    Per person:

    White Caapi 35grams (either pre-shredded or whole) Bang with a hammer if whole vine until easily shredded by hand and maybe even a run through a blender. We don't want or need powder here, just finely shredded Caapi.

    Take this finely shredded Caapi and in a crock pot add your 35g/person the add enough water to competely cover the Caapi and then add another 1cups of water/dose. So....if you are making enough for 4 people add an extra 4 cups of water IF it fits in your crock pot. Then add 1/8 cup vinegar/dose

    Turn this on low/medium and let cook for 3-4 hours. (Boiling at this point is OK, and won't hurt the alkaloids) Don't cover

    Strain well, save water/vinegar.

    Add enough water to cover the caapi, add just a splash of vinegar, less is better. Cook on low/medium for 3-4 hours. Strain. combine with prior cook water/vinegar

    Add ONLY water for the last cook. Let cook 5hrs+ more IS better here.

    Combine EVERYTHING in a very large pot.



    Here you have 2 options:

    1) Bring to a boil, cut off heat.

    crack open 2 eggs, discard the yolks.

    Add ONLY WHITES to the brew, whisk rapidly. The egg whites should almost immedietly rise to the surface in clumps.

    Strain through a cloth or paper towel 1-2 times until all egg white matter is removed. Your brew should now be clear instead of muddy looking.

    This removes the Tannins and other plant matter and will help reduce both gastrointestinal issues and purging (vomiting) too soon. You may also want to pull aside some of the brew at this point. Unreduced Caapi is wonderful and is a great anti-depressant and general mood lifter.

    Anyways no matter if you did the egg white filtration or not you now must:

    I usually add a very small amount of tobacco, not cig or cigar tobacco but 1 small mapacho leaf (tobacco used by Amazonian Curranderos, Bouncing Bear carries this as do a few other ethno vendors). It is thought that tobacco wards off evil spirits and brings a calming to the brew. I will roll up a mapacho ciggarette and blow the smoke onto the brew while it is reducing. This is similar to what the Currandero's of Brazil and Peru do.

    Another thing I usually do at this point is to focus my intentions into the brew. If I am looking for a healing journey I will meditate on this while reducing the brew. If I am looking for help reduce stress, or anger, I meditate on that into the brew...you get the idea. Many believe this to be more important that what plants you put into your brew. I am one of those that believe it.



    Ok, so you've got a boiling pot of Caapi tea in front of you. The idea is to reduce this down to about 100mL/dose. This is a bit more than a shotglass full per person. Turn the heat to low and check on it every 30 minutes or so. when the brew gets low you will NEED to stand over it so that you don't burn your Caapi brew. If you did an egg white filtration on it, there will be less grit and sludge, if not, you will have more. You should NOT smell any vinegar at the end, if you do, add more water and continue to reduce. Vinegar will completely boil off of the brew, you should not smell it in your reduced brew.

    Ok, now you have your Caapi brew, next the Admixture Teacher Plants:

    You have a choice of Chacruna (Psychotria viridis)
    Chaliponga (Diplopterys cabrerana)
    and Mimosa

    I suggest NOT using mimosa, it was never traditionally used in Ayahuasca and has it's own spirit that can overpower the healing of Caapi.

    I suggest Chaliponga. Chacruna is a great choice but you need A LOT of it. Chacruna gives clearer visions usually, but I prefer Chaliponga.

    So if using Chaliponga:

    10-30g/dose and the right dose can only be found for each person by trial and error. I usually need 20-30g for a good voyage, others only need 8-12grams for a strong voyage.

    1) Shred your Chalipong leaf in blender, coffee grinder, or by hand.
    2) Put Chaliponga in cooking pot.
    3) Add only enough to cover the leaf. DMT doesn't like to be at high temperature for long periods of time and we're gonna have to reduce this as well, so use as little water as needed
    4) cook 20 minutes at a very low simmer. Don't cover
    5) strain, keep water that comes out
    6) add same amount of water, no vinegar
    7) cook 20 minutes
    Cool strain again, combine with other chali tea
    9) cook 1 more time with new water, no vinegar 30 minutes, at the end bring to a hard boil (5 minutes tops)
    10) discard Chaliponga leaf, combine all water and reduce VERY slowly over low flame. 10-20mL/person, but this is just a VERY rough estimate. You will be combinging both Caapi and Chaliponga, the less you have to consume the better.

    That's it.

    For Chacruna:

    Dosage: 30g-120grams depending on stregnth of leaf and makeup of person

    Brewing: exact same as with Chaliponga

    You will want to fast after breakfast for an evening Ayahuasca Cerimony. You don't want anything, not even water, on your stomach 2 hours prior to consumption.

    1 hour after consuming the brew if no strong effects are felt a teaspoon of olive oil, an avacado, a small slice of cheese, or anything else that has a high fat content can be eated to bring on the visions. The gall bladder sometimes stores the actives and eating a bit will release it into your bloodstream. I've had a cerimony that I thought wasn't going to go anywhere after 2 hours of nothing. I went inside and made myself a small thing of instant soup....10 bites into it I was transported to another world...just like that...0-1,000,000,000/mph in 1 minute.



    Another wonderful resource you might want to look at is http://forums.ayahuasca.com/phpbb/ You will have to sign up to view the recipe subforum, but I assure you it is well worth it.
     
  3. ChrisFromScotland

    ChrisFromScotland Lang may yer lum reek

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    thanks for that very detailed response spicey i'll defo have a look at chaliponga :)
     
  4. phlyfinch

    phlyfinch Member

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    I've done it once and am doing it again on friday when my mimosa comes in the mail. I'm going to be taking it 3 days in a row. the only method of preparing it that I know is
    get some syrian rue and mimosa powder, not bark because I found that it's more difficult with bark because you have to filter all the muddy gunk at the bottom out.

    1. some people like to liquefy their MAOIs but I chose not to because I dont feel it's necessary. I used syrian rue as my MAOI. I took all my seeds and put them in a coffee grinder till they were not in seed form any more. I then downed about 3-4 grams with some orange juice.

    2. get about 10-15 grams of mimosa powder and cook it at a low boil. you can boil the liquid down as small as you want. none of the dmt will get killed. I boiled the liquid down into probably a 1/3 of a cup.

    3. also don't forget to acidify the mimosa liquid. I used the juice of half a lime.

    I took the syrian rue an hour before I drank the mimosa. took about 1.5 hours to fully manifest.

    you actually might want to take 10 grams of mimosa for the first time, I was overwhelmed by the 15 gram dose

    I spent like 16 dollars for 56 grams of mimosa and 7 dollars for 30 grams of rue
     
  5. ChenBenoweth

    ChenBenoweth Member

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    Genius. Using a raft to filter out unwanted materials. I'm a chef so that procedure is classic for filtering out unwanted materials. So basically cleaning your solution. Great stuff. Ill have to try.
     
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