Attention-seeking for validation

I was thinking about radio DJ's earlier, and how they broadcast themselves to maybe millions of people. Then there's the cult of celebrity, Hollywood actors, musicians etc. There must be an element of attention-seeking in all of it, and maybe it's driven by a lack of self-confidence, or something missing inside of themselves. We all do it to an extent I suppose. No one likes to be ignored. And most people feel better when someone gives them attention. It just seems to me those in the public eye may have more of an issue than us 'ordinary' folk. Personally I'd hate to be on tv, and I've turned down the chance to be on the radio a couple of times, mainly because of nerves, but also because it would just seem too weird for loads of people to be listening to what I'm saying.

Thoughts?

 

I found it difficult to commentate on a love broadcast when I used to do them on iRacing TV but to sit with me at home and listen to me, I'm really really good but I couldn't do it live, it was hard. I did for a year and I did some good broadcasts but I was drunk and stoned lol.

 

I like to ride under the radar.
A friend of mine has a radio show and I called in one night. That was the weirdest damn thing. It seemed so quiet on the phone and there's there's a elapsed time before your voice pops up on the radio but it don't sound like you. Decided I wasn't doing that again.

 

some people feel like they need others to validate them. not everyone who makes their living in the public eye does though. that's one motivation for some, but certainly by no means all.
sometimes you have ideas in your head, that you feel the world would be better of if more people at least thought of or considered them, and you've learned how to communicate them.

for me, i want the world to consider those ideas. i don't need it to notice me, or where they came from at all.
again to me, this is more important then the money that can be made trying to guess and give people just what the want to see and hear,
which chaises its own tail, which narrows its diversity, which again for me, it becomes tedius.

i get into things when they're new, when they have ideas that haven't been beaten to death by familiarity.
in the 70s and 80s that was science fiction. in the 90s, 'furry' spun off out of that, and i suppose a murger with the comix/manga world.
in the 50s when i was still little, the increasing accuracy of scale models, combined with moving under their own power, that was my first love.

so anyway, celebraty, people can have that, but they're still just people, and what they do, is still just another employment code,
though in reality all of us, not just those in the public eye, cut accross and combine many of those.

which is a major problem with the employment code system, but that's another vector.

imagination is not what growing up is about leaving behind,
having to be the center of the universe is.

growing up, is of course an option.
and obviously also, a phrase that is frequently misused, if anything more often then not.

often mistaken for an affinity with the familiar.

oh yah, and most of the best artists in every field, are indeed introverts.
but then i'm mostly familiar with writers and visual artist, who don't personally have to be in the public eye for their work to be.

the few musicians i've met are mostly just ordenary people otherwise, and again, just those i've met and not all of them, do tend to be actually more introverted then extroverted.
of course where i would be to happen to run into them might have something to do with it also and make meeting the introverted more likely.

i've met very few, well, to be honest i've met very few of anybody, no, wait, that's not entirely accurate either.
i think it comes down to you'll find the same distribution of all over the introvert-extrovert spectrum, in the public eye as not.
everyone has their own motivations, and i think that's one of the dumb things people do is to assume everyone in a particular situation shares the same motivations.

 

i don't know, when i'm at work i often wish people could pretend i wasn't there for a minute.

i've been on the radio a couple times. honestly it was a pretty neutral experience for me. not particularly exciting, not particularly unnerving. it's just something i had to do so i did it.

 

i wish people would pretend i wasn't there QUIETLY, for many hours and days, even most of them.
robbing people of thinking their own thoughts is the same crime as robbing them of any physical object and ought to be the same felony.
that doesn't mean i don't want them to be happy. i do. but i really wish they could learn how to do so without robing each other of their own minds and imaginations.
it also doesn't mean i reject the affection and other good intentions of others either, though i do seem to get alone reasonably well.

but what, i wonder, does turning to anything, have to do, with the non-gratification of gratuitous accumulation? or was that in another thread.
and what does it even mean, to turn to something, that the only thing we know anything about, we pull out of you know where, to tell each other?

dj's, you know, a lot there depends on how much say they have in determining their own programing.

 

The thought of being a celebrity and having no privacy makes me want to die a little inside

 

I was on the radio once and I cant even remember how I felt about the experice... that's how little it mattered to me. But as someone who has routinely performed on stage I can say with all certainty that I'm not doing for the attention and that there is nothing missing inside of me. Actually, to be honest your generalization is kinda insulting.
Some of us who perform are ordinary folk

 

I would enlighten you all to some good tunes on the radio. Not talk a lot.
I don't want to be on tv, but if I was (and known for it) I'm not sure how that would affect me. I would not pander for attention (although i acknowledge many celebs in their early career do not pander to get in the spotlight and on breakfast shows because they love the attention, but because they need it for their job. It's how that work often works. Then they get sick of the attention later when they accomplished celeb status ), so I might not be suitable to strive for a tv career. Suits me!

 

I personally don’t think that most people that are in the public eye, honestly want the level of attention they receive. I think that actors and musicians are more interested in providing the best entertainment they can provide, because that’s their true passion. Same thing for most politicians. They are only interested in doing the best they can to serve the public. MOST politicians that is.

There are those ordinary folks who do yearn for the attention though. You can always catch those folks in the background during a news interview- waving at the camera.

 

It's a needy, unattractive and complete turn off type of behavior for all sexes

 

And a means to kickstart a celeb career or to stay 'relevant' as a celeb. A significant amount may use that as an excuse too to give in to it.

 

and you would be fired quickly for it.

this is where you lost me. from what i've seen, even local politicians are usually just sad little men who want to feel important, but don't actually do much outside of talking about themselves.

 

How much effort do you make to see more of their labours? Maybe that's all they seem to do because that's all you take notice of.

 

without going into great detail about my job, i deal with them quite a bit through work. they like to show up to "volunteer" whenever there is a large community event. and by "volunteer" i mean they take a selfie and post a picture on facebook saying "i just spent the day volunteering to do this thing" then they leave immediately without doing any actual work.

i also sometimes get sucked into their community improvement meetings, where they like to set up more groups to have more meetings, where those groups set up more groups to have more meetings. all those people then talk about how great they are for going to these meetings, but literally nothing is ever done outside of the meetings so nothing is ever actually accomplished.

 

Given how streamlined and restrictive radio has become in terms of what they play, I'm not going to entirely discount what you say in the OP but I do think there are still a good amount of Dj's that thoroughly enjoy playing music and have a passion for it. I find some drop interesting facts about the music they play, such as how a song was inspired or some story about the band that might not be well known to the casual listener. Some of my favorite sports radio hosts have interactive communications with callers either discussing a topic or playing games.

So for many of them, I think they genuinely hone their craft first and foremost. I find it a welcome reprieve from the insanity of the mainstream news media during these times and I think they are generally less starving for attention than your average youtuber.

 

@ undies

Ha well thanks for explaining About them showing their face at such an event and then are gone right after the selfie moment: could be because they see that as an obligatory part of their job and have more work to do Rather not waste their time hanging around doing something other people likely can do better

 

^ could be, but i'm not giving them that benefit of the doubt.

 

Job security for some, I guess. Those folks are seeking re-election and to stay in the seat probably for the income and other perks they can gain.

Several years ago, I attended a negotiations training course and one of the instructors worked with USAID (United States Agency for International Development) for several years. One of the things she told us was that whenever there’s a crisis, politicians sitting in meetings and talking about it, to them, that is considered doing something about it.

 

^ yeah, it's definitely all about the next election. to me, a job that mostly just consists of campaigning to keep the job, is not a particularly useful job in the first place.

haha, that definitely seems to be the truth about how they see their meetings.