Asperger's Syndrome

Anyone on here have aspergers syndrome? I'v battle it my whole life but have almost overcame most of it's negative effects. The wikipedia article is good at explaining the side effects of aspergers and the problems that co-exist with it but does not actully explain aspergers. Many people with aspergers are mis-diagnosed with add. Basically the main part of it is that people with aspergers have sensitive more starry eyes. For example I can stare at a wall and all the sudden the room and everything dissapeares and I can enter a dream world where I can create basically a dream while I am awake with my eyes open. Anyone remember that show doug from nickalodeon? that somewhat explains what aspergers is like.

 

I have it. IM me if you want.

I've never experienced that dream world thing though....

 

I'm curious about this, but what you describe sounds kinda like what someone with a pretty good imagination does but at will. What would be the difference between the two?

 

Yeah I probaly have a combination of asperger's and good imagination. That's why I think ima become a author and write books or perhaps become a teacher. Also I can type with my eyes closed because I can see the keyboard and my hand in my head while my eyes are closed

 

That ability could be really useful for a lot of things.

 

I took a test online and self-diagnosed. So, I know that might not be valid. That's how I found a website called Wrong Planet. Did any of you go to those forums when that website was around?
I also have left temporal lobe epilepsy and PTSD, so I think that some of my abilities, and problems, could have to do with the TLE.

For example, I have never been good at relating to people and I find it exhausting. I am often confused by what they mean, especially if they're not exactly saying what they mean. I am not stupid, though. I have a high I.Q. People jus perplex me.

I have aquaintances, but not good friends. I'm OK with that, though. When I have to interact with people too much, I feel as though I need to recover and rest afterward.

Anyway, it's possible that I don't have AS. I tried to talk to my counselor about it, but he wanted to focus on the PTSD. I don't think he knew what AS was.

 

Im pretty sure I have asperger's

I have the typical zoning out thing. In kindergarten my teachers would say I would zone out so much and just sit there wide-eyed staring off into space that they would have to come over and shake me to make me come back.

I also never really figured out how to talk with other people till like senior year of high school. Although I'm pretty good at it now. I've made friends with mostly everyone I've come across, almost... sorta. I find employing the whole Timothy Leary concept of 'reality tunnel' helps alot. Just kind of try to sense the reality tunnel they've built for themselves and work your interaction through that. To me autism and asperger's, from the context of psychadellia and reality tunnel, is that your born with a strong mental tolerance against accepting norms and habits. So you don't fall into any of the typical 'flows', your resilient to forming that typical collective reality tunnel of culture. So it's like your sitting on the outside, very literally, looking in at people doing all these 'things' that don't make sense. Because quite honestly, they don't make sense to them either, there just in the habit of doing them. And just by our natural way of interacting we bring light to these unknown habituations of people and for some its very threatening to their ego. Much of interacting I've found is recognizing these unknown habituations of people (their reality tunnel) and not touching them, then people tend to like you a bit more.

I know what you mean by being able to enter into a dream world too. I call it meditation now. But for years I just did it because I enjoyed it and didn't realize it is meditation. But honestly, thats what it is. I associate now with going into a meditative state and opening the third eye. I used to use this ability to essentially design things. I would draw things in my dreamspace and come back and make them. But now I've found its actually more interesting if you dont do anything while in this state. Just let it do it's own thing. But I have never heard anyone describe this as an aspect of asperger's, where did you read that?

 

I don't have this syndrome. But I have to say, I am fascinated by those that do, and I haven't really been fascinated until just now by reading your replies.

For some reason, I have a sense that people that have this syndrome, make more sense to me than those that don't - People with Asperger's syndrome, to me, seem to have greater minds than those that don't. That might be a huge leap when I say that, but that is just the sense that I am experiencing.

I find your mental abilities to be incredible. You all may have a greater sense of reality than so called 'normal' people.

I'm just honesty floored by these replies, and for the most part, speechless.

Fascinating.

 

That's a good way to put it. For example, I can not bring myself to wear makeup. Some people have tried to convince me that I would be more beautiful, acceptable, employable, normal, if I wore makeup like other women.

However, I would feel self conscious, silly, strange, anxious, and uncomfortable. I can't do it. And I won't.

There are things like that about me that cause people to label me as eccentric. I know that I am eccentric, but I don't try to be. There are just some things that I have to do certain ways, if that makes any sense. I'm very particular about my clothes being comfortable, too. And so on.

I don't mean to be weird, though.

I notice details that other people don't, also. Do you guys do that? Sometimes I freak people out with the details that I notice or remember. I also notice patterns and I count compulsively. Lovely.

 

I pretty much fit the criteria for having it, though I have never been diagnosed. I hold little faith in modern psychology or its quack practitioners, so I stay as far away from them as I can. I don't even think they started diagnosing Asperger's until around 1994. But I really have a problem with everything being labeled these days, especially as a "syndrome" or "disorder." I think close-mindedness and apathy is a disorder, quite frankly, though you never hear it classified as such. The reason that so-called Asperger's syndrome is considered a "disorder" to the establishment is because it prevents many people from being the good producer-consumers the overwhelming majority of those considered "normal" are. Many people with these characteristics tend to be individualistic and shut in, and they have a hard time existing in the outside world. That is in direct odds with the uniformity that is desired in a society run on money. The controllers of the system we live under want people to be predictable and basically obedient cogs in the matrix.

We live in a society that HATES individualism, so therefore anyone who exhibits traits not considered by the concensus majority to be "normal" (and we must ask ourselves who decides what "normal" is), is looked upon as having some sort of syndrome or disorder, and therefore inferior in some way. From what I have seen, many such people that fit into this category of having this syndrome are far more in tune, not only with themselves, but the world around them. If that is a disorder, then normalcy is something that should always be frowned upon.

 

Ive actually never been attracted to any girl that wears makeup. I mean, I have been just cause they are pretty, but never to a point that I pursue them as a girlfriend.

 

same here I always like girls without makeup.

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Also what I'v noticed when I meet other people that have asperger's their more nice and easier to be friends with. When I was growing up for some reason kids would always be hostile to me for no reason I guess cus I zoned out a lot that was considered odd. So I had to learn how to fight and im smaller than most kids because I have the muscle disorder associated with some cases of asperger's. I'v always noticed that I understand human emotions and situations better than people without asperger's. My skills are not that good in everyday type things but my skills in creative things is amazing. That's why im most likely going to become a author when I grow up because I can think of such insane fiction stories to right in all genres too. Im also going to write up stories for movies if I can get in that business.

 

I am very much aware of when Asperger's was discovered. However, it wasn't added to the DSM IV until 1994. Therefore, most older people (that is older than school age) are less likely to have been diagnosed by the loving system.

Anyway, I don't consider a person's brain being wired differently than the majority of the population to be a "disorder." That's simply how you choose to look at it. In some cases, this should be looked at as a plus, not a negative. People who are often considered highly gifted or geniuses also have differently wired brains than the majority of the population. But does that mean they have a disorder, when their minds are working at a much higher level?

You see, Asperger's would not be a "disorder" if we lived under a HUMANE system that values creativity and individuality, rather than uniformity and predictability.

It seems like the goal of modern psychology (just another wing of big-pharma) is to group and label everyone. I was diagnosed with ADD as a child and put on harmful stimulant drugs that did absolutely nothing for me other than make me sick. I have since come to realize that ADD is a made up "disorder" by big-pharma in tandem with the public indoctrination (education) system, to classify children who display a certain set of traits that most NORMAL, INTELLIGENT and HEALTHY children display. Is there anyway to properly diagnose this "disorder," other than by certain NORMAL traits the system considers unfavorable and thus abnormal? No, there isn't. The same applies to Asperger's.

Yes, like you said, we are all individuals. So why are you so adamant on making individualism into a disorder?

 

I never said being diagnosed with anything is inhumane. I am well aware there are conditions that DO warrant the label of disorder. What I said is that Asperger's is looked upon as being a DISORDER (and one which is being diagnosed with ever more frequency) because people with such a condition (if you want to call it that) tend to think outside of the box and have a much harder time existing in the world which is generally looked upon as "normal" and based around the accumulation of wealth and material goods. (Let's please not lump Asperger's in with full-blown autism. People with autism have a much harder time caring for themselves and therefore must depend on others. This is not the case for people with so-called Asperger's syndrome, who largely exist in their own little world but are not detached from reality.)

Let's face it, the system we are living under is a system based around money, so that in itself makes it an inhumane system because it is an artificial, man-made creation aimed at benefiting the few versus the many. There is nothing REAL about the system we are living under, which we are conditioned to believe from birth is real. The only reality we can fathom is the one we were born into. If you aren't a good cog in the machine, and most people with Asperger's-like traits are not, they are labeled as being abnormal or having a "disorder."

I do understand that these people do have a hard time in life. I know because I am this way and have been an outsider for pretty much all my life. I have an incredibly hard time relating to the outside world, which makes it difficult when it comes to making a living for myself. However, if we lived under a different system, where people genuinely cared about each other and were valued for who they are as individuals (instead of being simply "human resources"), Asperger's would not be a disorder, but an advantage, as most of these people are highly creative and intelligent people that have so much to offer to the world.

I am quite happy and content with my life, and I need very little to be happy. I don't care for material things. As long as I have time to think and be by myself, I couldn't be happier. It's when I am forced to face the outside world, which is an artificial and inhumane system, that I have problems.

 

I have more to say, and there are a few things I didn't address in my last thread, but I will do that later on.

 

I have it. It is both a blessing and a curse (for me at least). I have good days and bad days. Of course, all the psych's recommend therapy and medication. I go to therapy regularly and take Zoloft and Abilify every other day. Everyday makes me feel quite strange.

 

Well, how can you say Asperger's is a form of autism, when the DSM-IV clearly states that it is a seperate and distinct syndrome from autistic disorder or autism? Yes, you can say it is a mild form of autism, and people often do, but that is in very general terms and not exactly accurate.

 

I am aware that Asperger's is an Autistic Spectrum Disorder, in which autism also falls under. However, it's not autism as you claimed in one of your previous threads. The two are in some ways related, and they share several of the same characteristics, but they're not one and the same. High-functioning autism is not necessarily the same as Asperger's and vice-versa. It falls under the autistic sprectrum because it manifests itself with similar symptoms (traits, etc) but is not the same as autistic disorder or autism, which exist as seperate classifications.

 

Thank your homerow keys for that...not Asperger's

 

Have you actually been diagnosed with it?