Are People Turned Off By Strong Women

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by shameless_heifer, Jul 28, 2005.

  1. shameless_heifer

    shameless_heifer Super Moderator

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    Do people feel threatened by strong opinionated females?

    Are strong willed women seen in the same way as strong willed men?

    When women state their views on a subject are their conculsions being taken as seriouly as a mans view?

    Why are strong willed women classified as bitches and strong willed men thought of as heros?

    Why is it that batterd women are being ridiculed for speaking out against abuse?

    Why is it when one speaks from a place of knowing they are condemed?

    Why is it BC you speak with strong convition that you are classified as a man hater?


    I am wondering if any one has experienced these things.
     
  2. Ranger

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    :) Good Morning & HUGS :)
     
  3. Jedi

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    Whether you are a man or a woman, if you are an opinionated person, people might tolerate you for a while but they will get pretty sick of your attitude.

    It is good to have an open mind, but then again if you are being classified as a man hater because you speak with a strong conviction, maybe what you are saying is something very radical and something that does not really come close to what others might expect reality to be.

    Now I don't know what type of a person you are, but in my past experience I have come across people who claim to be extremely strong women and they act like complete morons to everyone around them. Insulting others, being aggressive for nothing and not listening to others does not translate into being strong, however it does translate into being very opinionated and ofcourse very anti social.

    I once worked for a chariatable organization that helps women, my boss was actually a very strong woman, well atleast she kept everyone in line. However, she was strong in actually understanding the problems that her subordinates faced. She understood others in a way unique to herself actually and she was pretty good at it too. She helped me alot , i can say and although she doesn't work there anymore, she was the best thing that had happened to their organization.

    I think strength comes from compassion and understanding, not from aggression or opinionated views.
     
  4. Ranger

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    Being 'radical' doesn't make one wrong and the expectations of reality of the majority have so far given us Nixon, Regan, Bush & the current war.
    As for what is meant by being a strong/opinionated woman in this context I think speaking from thirty plus years of knowing this woman and her sisters in the family she speaks of one who holds to her convictions until persueded through reasoned argument and does't back down or bow to unreasoned force as an argument.
     
  5. Flight From Ashiya

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    There may soon be a 'strong-willed ' woman in the Whitehouse in 2008:

    'Hillary Clinton' :D


     
  6. shameless_heifer

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    Good Morning Ranger, Nice to see your face. Huggss back@cha.

    When trying to communicate feelings there is so much to wade through before the real issue presents itself. I thing we have a tendncy to take things and make them larger to suit our own needs at the moment.
    I think the ego takes over at that point and it becomes a battle of the sexes and who's right and who's wrong. Then the main issue is lost and the is no longer communication only chaos.

    When I lived at the commune in the Haight, we would have family meetings to discuss issues that were presented. We would first throw the I Ching to get a grasp of the situation. Then we would call up the ones with the issues. They would be brought into the light and examined, discussed and a solution would be draw and agreed upon.
    With all eyes watching and the light shinning on the dark places, we could come together in understanding finding with a solution that worked for the good of the ALL.. This worked well in that enviroment. If this method was used more in the homeplace and people started to really listen to their pardners needs and came to some understanding on how to comprimise,where everyone is respected and their feelings concidered.
    We each have our needs and the disire for them to be fulfilled by our mates. But basicly we all just want love and to be respected. When we(all of us humans) are not getting thatwe tend to be unhappy, bringing confusion and doubt, there should be a discussion and changes made to accomidate both parties.
    This is reasoning and using your brain, not your brawn.

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    Help in handling things peacfully...

    First if the house isn't burning down around you, take a step back, a deep breath, even a short walk if need be and try to calm down and center yourself before talking further.
    Secondly and this is a hard one for some to understand and get a grasp on, it took me a while and a wise woman patient enough to prove it to me, men have a 28 day hormonal cycle the same as women only instead of being aware of it and coping they tend to rage around taking things all out of proportion...
     
  8. Oz!

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    Self-assertiveness is sexy (who the hell wants to spend time with someone who is a simpering wallflower??) ..... being opiniated is fine too, as long as your trying to convey those opions respects others.....gobshites who just go on and on and on about how "they are right" get boring pretty quickly
     
  9. wiggy

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    too many questions
     
  10. shameless_heifer

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    Just take one at a time Wiggy.. :)
     
  11. Jedi

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    :D absolutely. I guess not just marriage but everything needs this. In business too, both parties try to compromise and try to have a win/win situation. It is the most effective method in any scenario, if we are just a little patient and consider other's viewpoint with an open mind.
     
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    lol yeah i should do and this will turn into the longest post in the world - i looked at it thinking yay good thread at last but wayyyyyy to many and wayyyyyy to much reading for me lol
     
  13. shameless_heifer

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    Most people who are bullies and like to use force are generally holding themselves in low esteem and putting others down and forcing them to yeild is a way to feel stronger and having a certian amount of power over another also boosters their self esteem.
     
  14. shameless_heifer

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    This method of communication works in all situation concerning more than one person.

    I have found that the ones that show the most resistance to open communication are the ones that need it the most.

    I have also noticed that in most cases one or the other feels they don't want to have to do anything to change the situation. They just want it to change. Without working for a change it can not manifest. We have to use our reasoning and not relaps into animalistic behavior, becomming burtish and harsh inour judgements.
     
  15. shameless_heifer

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    Well Wiggy. Try finding a question that you can relate to without to much reading. Or any issue that concerns you, that relates to the thread. Which the question was " Are People Turned Off By Strong Women.. go ahead and take a stab at it, all opinions are important.
     
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    As stated above, a healthy, secure man should find a strong, self-determined, vital woman to be very attractive.

    But vitality should never be (but often is) confused with belligerent female machismo.
     
  17. dmgreen

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    I think strong woman are sexy! I am a strong woman myself and alot of guys can't handle that. I think because I have such a good job and make great $$$ and am head strong, guys tend to get scared of it or are intimidated by the fact that I might be better off then them. Oh well, life's a bitch!
     
  18. squawkers7

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    I have a tendency to be stubborn & very opinionated (maybe even pig headed)especially when I start the day in bad mood and then someone gets me on a roll about something...happened yesterday here & couple members weren't to thrilled with my posts.
     
  19. shameless_heifer

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    dmgreen..Do you feel like people are more stand offish bc of your sucess, are you included in with your co-workers at lunch and office parties. Are you invited out for drinks after work with the crowd.
    Do you find that men seem to shy away from you when you have more then them, materiealisticly speaking.

    Squawkers, Does your stuborness get you what you want or does it take you further from you goal.

    BlueBong.. I find the same is true. If a women stands up and speaks her mind she is either "on the rag" or she is "on the rag". When a man stands up and speaks his mind, he's conciderd a leader.

    I'm not male bashing here and I don't want to 'come off' that way. I'm only speaking from what I have experienced and the things I see and how I feel about them.
    I am here to teach and learn, to broaden my knowledge and perfect myself from what I take and what I give.

    I think we all have a strong side and a weak side. I belive it's which side of us we're using to communicate with that lays down the structure of the information that is being passed, and how the other pardner recives and reacts to said information.
     
  20. Jedi

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    It depends on what is being said / done . If a 'woman' thinks that she should help out and starts something new for the good of the community then I think people will consider her a leader. If a man acts only in self interest, indulges in violence and causes pain to those around them then he is thought to be the useless burden.
     
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