are most christians naive or is god completely unfair?

ok from the understanding I'm getting from reading these forums the majority of the christians say that the only way to god is through jesus right?
so that makes me wonder;
given that the dates in the bible are correct up until the year 0 the old testament was the way to god, since there was no jesus this was the book that took you there. Then Jesus was born, walked around for lets just say 40 years (because I don't know so its going to 40 years, the time doesn't really matter) so jesus walked around for 40 years telling everyone that he was the way and they killed him for it. so now all the sudden the rules have dramatically changed and now the only way to god is through jesus am I right?
so from that I can't help but conclude that god is like a 6 year old in a game of dodgeball he changed the rules and only bothered to inform a very small fraction of the population of the world. It had to take hundreds and hundreds of years for word of jesus to spread all over the world so that everyone may have a chance of salvation, but what about all those people who were born and died before word could reach them yet after the rules were changed, are they automatically sentenced to a life of suffering in hell because they were unfortunate enough to be born at the wrong place at the wrong time?

 

Considering there is no proof of this "god" character, I'd have to say the former.

 

I didn't say there wasn't God, I'm just saying the way christians see and explain god is all fucked up, he's all evil and murderous and what not

 

Yep, that'd be "him".

 

apparently this is an issue that christians try to avoid?

 

Yep, that'd be them.

 

Tiki, in the Old Testemant, the Hebrew god was only one of many.
IT was the ones who wrote the new testemant, along with the
Yahweists Hebrews, that changed it all to reflect only one.

Jesus was teaching that they should return to their Father,
through him. He was trying to reform the Judaic church,
who were worshipping a tyranical and jealous god, while
Jesus tried to teach them that their father was not that way.

It was this way that one got to the father, the father of the hebrews that is,
not the continued worship of this tyrant. That is what Jesus was saying.

When the NT was written, combined with the prior changes to the
Hebrew scriptures, it was combined that Jesus was preaching of
"God" not a god, and that is where the confusion comes in, because
the way it is written, it reflects more that Jesus was trying
to recruit people back to Yahweh, in that case he was preaching
to the choir, because they all already worshipped him, so why bother?

That is why it makes no sense just reading the bible.

ANd yes, chrisitians like to ignore the fact that jesus wasnt
talking to the Gentiles, he just wanted the Jews to come
back to their father.

 

He didn't change things mid-game. He even told the jews [via the prophets] that the savior was coming, and things would be different.


The Jews never listened.

 

I'm refering to the christians who claim that jesus is the only way to get to God that unless you love the son of God (Jesus, apparently to most christians we are not the son of god) unless you love the son of God as our savior you will not be liberated or reach God or go to heaven or whatever you want to say.....from my experience on this forum the common idea is that jesus is the only way...so I want to know what about those unfortunate souls who were never given the soul saving lesson of jesus christ

thats like hitler saying 'alright I'll spare the lives of the jews if they swear their allegiance to me' but then only telling 50 jews

 

"God" makes Hitler look like an ambassador of tolerance and humanity.

 

No kidding...

 

Some people believe differently about what happened to all those faraway folks who died before christianity spread. They sure weren't worshipping the Jewish God, by any extent.

But, guess what? Today everyone knows about Christ. Want to accept him?

 

but what does accept him mean? if I say yes to that question what am I saying yes to?

 

Making Him your savior, believing that He was the Son of God who came from Heaven to save man.

 

As if its that easy... Most people have heard of Jesus, yes. But thats about it, theyve heard the name and that he was this baby in a crib somewhere in the middle east. Its not like the entire earth is familliar with who Jesus is said to be in the bible. And even if you know who the bible says He was, its not like you all of a sudden believe and feel the need to accept Him and start living for God. Thats one of the things that bothered me when i was discussing religion with christians, they made it sound so fucking easy. Well its not.

 

Ahh...myrtje said "fucking"...

I like it when you talk dirty, baby. *kisses*

 

God knows everyone who is looking for Him. God always makes a way for those who are seeking Him to find Him. The unfortunate souls will go their own way. See, God knew all of us before we were born, as a result, He knew who would be searching for Him from the beginning. Our life here on earth is just an extension of a life that existed before we got here. That's why God said, He knew David before the womb. I believe God put the seekers of God in areas of the earth where they could find Him. God knew that most of the world would reject Him, because He knew them from the beginning. The Christians are just trying to reach the other seekers. We don't know who they are, but God does.

 

The concept of christianity is weird, god puts people on earth, he gives them a free will, but if they use it and questions him, he sends them to hell...

Oh and btw, Eirse... Alpha isn't A, so your sig would be either ΔΩ or δω

 

The kingdom of God cometh not with observation; neither shall they say, Lo here! or, Lo there! For behold, the kingdom of God is within you. (Luke 17:20-21)

ok if the kingdom of god comes from within and jesus came from the kingdom of god, are they saying jesus comes from within?

I'm fine with accepting jesus as a savior but can I accept more then just him? Now it sounds like god just plays favorites why did god only sent a savior to one part of the world, isn't it possible that god sent saviors to other parts of the world to help others in a different way?

 

God sent Jesus to Judea because Judea was the country with the prophets who spoke of Him. It would be silly for Jesus to be raised in China or so, because the bible said he [the coming messiah] must be born in Bethlehem.

If God did indeed send saviors to different parts of the world, then they wouldn't contradict each other. Some say that Allah = the Jewish God and that Mohammed = Jesus.... If this is true, then the Koran wouldn't say something different than the bible, and Mohammed wouldn't have preached different things.