Apologies to Skip

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Helmag, Mar 20, 2007.

  1. Helmag

    Helmag People are cool. :D

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    Skip,

    First off I'd like to say this is Portalguy. I also just posted about censorship in religion. A post now looking back I probably shouldn't have posted.

    Skip, while I disagree with you on a whole lot more than we agree on I shouldn't have gotten caught up in my own ego. I got angry and started taking shots at you and others who disagreed.

    This ain't the Christian way and I was wrong for it. I'd like to say I'm sorry.
    If you so choose to ban this account as well I understand.
     
  2. mountainman7

    mountainman7 Member

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    I also owe an apology to you Skip and also Posthumous. I was initially taken back at how tough this place was the first day I came on here and I started to post in a way that was not characteristic of me. I am sorry Skip and Posthumous for how I posted toward you guys - It was wrong and I was at fault. I'm supposed "Love no matter what", and not that you guys are my enemies, but I should even love my enemies in word and deed. I apologize. We are all human beings here, even if we strongly disagree with each other. Love first should be the way or "do all things in love" as is said in the NT. I have not followed through with this here, and if I hurt you guys in any way, I apologize. You never banned me Skip but I left for a while and came back under another name because I was ashamed of some of the things I said and the way that I said them. It just shows that I have a lot to learn about respecting other's beliefs, even if they come against what I believe. I guess as some say, religion can really divide people. Love always respects others and attempts to bring others together. We who take the name of Jesus upon ourselves should not get so offended by others who do not agree with our faith and we should be examples of love at all times. Sorry Skip and Posthumous. I hope I didn't let you guys down.
     
  3. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    It's way too easy to get caught up in the emotions behind one's beliefs. The trick is not to get personal about it. You want to attack the ideas of others, that's fine. But attacking individuals personally isn't allowed, as you know. That acts as a brake on free speech, when people get insulted for just saying what they think.

    Unfortunately Christians have a long and infamous history of censorship that must be overcome. Christians have burned books and censored the thoughts of so many people over the centuries. I won't even get into the Inquisition and the witch burnings.

    So if Christians want to be respected, they must first respect the beliefs of others, which seems to be quite a challenge to most Xtians.

    And now when Christians are killing muslims every day, you must take AFFIRMATIVE action, like taking to the streets, organizing protests, writing your congressmen, etc. to PROVE that you really do care and act from LOVE and not GREED.

    If you DON'T do these things today, right now, then you CANNOT call yourself a Christian because you are LETTING your LEADERS KILL non-Christians in your name, and the name of Christ. Is that what you want?
     
  4. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    The Bible states there is time for war and a time for peace. This IS a time for war.

    Furthermore, if war is terrorism, then God was the ultimate terrorist. Because He used war all the time... and He still does.
     
  5. Posthumous

    Posthumous Resident Smartass

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    I'm sorry if I said anything untoward. Sometimes my satire turns to sarcasm, and I apologize if I've stepped on anyone's feeling while defending my view on reality.

    Peace
     
  6. Gaston

    Gaston Loup Garou

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  7. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Uh, if that was the only problem with Xtians, I wouldn't have a problem with them. But that is just SUPERFICIAL.

    What is far worse is the consequences of their belief system, which results in endless wars, disrespect and exploitation of the environment, venomous hate towards all who are different, censorship, support of warmongering hypocrites just because they're Christian, disrespect of science, imposing their belief system & morality upon non-christians... I could go on and on.

    Yet you only pointed out the most superficial of reasons not to like Christians. I put my reasons WAY above yours in importance.
     
  8. Portalguy

    Portalguy Member

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    Skip, you know what...I hope I'm not banned but I can no longer post on this portion of the board. I don't feel like it'll ever be reasonable debate.
     
  9. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Fine. Not my fault though, so don't blame me, it's your choice.
     
  10. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    The bible is simply stating FACTS here. (a rarity indeed)

    It's not saying YOU MUST MAKE WAR, is it?

    Didn't jesus preach peace? So how can Xtians say it's time for war, and still be faithful to their "god"?

    Hypocrites, all of you Christian warmongers.
     
  11. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    Misconception - Jesus did not come to bring peace, but instead He came to divide.

    Jesus states, "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to turn
    " 'a man against his father,
    a daughter against her mother,
    a daughter-in-law against her motherinlaw—
    36a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.'[e]
    37"Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; 38and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.
     
  12. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Well THAT just turned me off to JESUS forever! Thanks! :)

    It shows Jesus to be just as self-centered and egotistical as most Christians. Now I know where you get all your warmongering. May your Christian warmonger karma come back to you many, many times...

    Oh happy day! :)

    I'm Glad to not be worthy of Jesus! He SUCKS! He even turns forumer against forumer!

    Lemme ask you this... If Jesus was alive today (his dead bones not withstanding), would he be sucking Bush's cock or the other way around? I'm not sure who would be dominant there. Maybe a nice 69 would do the trick? That is if you can get Bush away from Cheney's cock long enough to suck Jesus...

    Yup I've now lost all respect for xtians and Jesus and my future posts will reflect that... ;)

    BTW, Jesus didn't die for me. Another big lie you all love to repeat.

    Another BTW, if you all want to apologize, I think y'all should start with apologizing for the crimes of Christians against the world for the past 2,000 years. That's a starting point. Then maybe you will be deserving of respect.
     
  13. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Here's a post I made in the protest forum, I think Christians should read:

    Christians ARE THE MOST TO BLAME for the Iraq war, for re-electing BUSHIT as their leader.

    Rather than gripe at you guys now, I have SOLUTIONS for you.

    First of all, every Christian should write to the HEAD of their church, not your local pastor or priest, but the BIG fucking head of your church, AND write to the COUNCILS that oversee your sect, and tell ALL of them that you feel the war is UNCHRISTIAN and every effort should be made to stop this war NOW!

    You should start a NEW organization called CAW, Christians Against War, and the mission should be to SHOUT from the BIGGEST MEDIA outlets you can that the war is ANTI-CHRISTIAN as well as ANTI-MUSLIM, and should be halted immediately.

    Until these things are done, the war will continue. Show the world that Christians actually follow the teachings of CHRIST, and not their shallow, corrupt leader when it comes to war.

    Historically the Church still has a LOT to answer for, and unless America's Christians can unite against this war, responsibility for it will FOREVER be upon you.

    You got us into it, you can get us out of it. NOBODY ELSE CAN!!!

    This is what I've concluded from studying four years of Xtian participation in this horrific debacle.

    So either you're FOR WAR or AGAINST IT. There is no middle ground anymore. The troops HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. It's not about them, it's about KILLING, MURDER, GREED and RELIGION. Is this what Christ would want you all to be supporting in his name? (why do I never get an answer to that question?)
     
  14. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    I, on the other hand, would like to thank Skip (I apologized elsewhere). I came in here against my own judgement to see what all the hubbub is. I avoid the Christian forums because I don't need the heartburn. But I did gain something here.

    See my sig.
     
  15. dudenamedrob

    dudenamedrob peace lily

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    holy fucking shit........i've seen it all now
     
  16. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    Yeah. Jesus came to separate your head from your body. Beware.
     
  17. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    You guys really do hate Jesus and what He stood for. You are no different then the people of Christ's day. You would be the first to spit in His face, but with hearts like Pharoh what else would you do?
     
  18. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    No. I can't speak for others but I don't hate anyone. I'm a little intolerant of self-righteous zealots though.

    You hardcore thumpers are all nuts, that's why I don't even come in here for debate anymore. And if it turns out you were right, an eternity of hell will be better than tolerating your arrogance.
     
  19. dudenamedrob

    dudenamedrob peace lily

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    yeah, personally I would rather burn in hell than worship a terrorist.
     
  20. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    There's a sweet irony in Jesusdied4u's quote above.

    That was from Matthew who obviously misquoted an old testament passage by Micah, in a failed attempt to prove that Jesus fulfilled some stupid prophecy.

    So Matthew LIED saying Jesus had said those words when there is no second source for that statement. So apparently HISTORY was rewritten by these apostles so that it would appear that Jesus fulfilled prophecy as the awaited messiah, by putting words into his mouth that he never said...

    So we now have a choice. Believe that Christianity is a religion of terrorists, or believe that the words of Jesus were perverted by his followers to make him appear to be something he wasn't.

    In any case, even if Jesus DID utter those words, again he was just stating FACTS. Because ANY new religion will encounter the same difficulties he predicted because RELIGION DIVIDES PEOPLE and families. Religion draws lines between believers and unbelievers. Therein lies its greatest flaw.

    But I'm more incensed with the "worthy" bullshit, because that prejudges everyone and again divides people.

    All these religions are setup to GET and KEEP followers at whatever cost. Prostelitizing and THREATS are how they stay in business. By threatening a people with ETERNAL DAMNATION, they manage to get and keep ppl OUT OF FEAR!

    And using FEAR to get people to join your cause IS TERRORISM at its worse!
     

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