Antifa Communist Connection

Discussion in 'Conspiracy' started by Fueled by Coffee, Apr 24, 2017.

  1. puff n stuff

    puff n stuff Well-Known Member

    fascism - roots are with Italy.

    fascism is an offshoot of Marxism, the theoretical framework for communism and socialism, which are left.

    Nazi means national socialism party, or nazi for short. National SOCIALIST German workers party was founded in 1919 by Hitler's.

    What ANTIFA is doing is the actions of fascists that are nationalists. You fight for a left wing ideology for a country. ANTIFA are not individualists, they are socialists. They have more in common with socialist fascism in using force and intimidation to get what they want. Behaving like the brown shirts.

    Mousellini was leader of the national fascist party, prior to that was active in the psi, party socialist Italiano party. He stated he would live and die a socialist.
     
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  2. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

    No, Mussolini was.
     
  3. puff n stuff

    puff n stuff Well-Known Member

    Do people have nothing better to do with their time than edit? Yeah good plan, let's bring up spelling errors and say nothing more, because that is the important part. While I appreciate the correction, I knew it was possibly spelled incorrectly but just did not care, so thank you for your valued contribution, I am positive without your assistance what I said above would be misunderstood and meaningless.

    LOL.

    You are a genius.

    Would have been nice if you had more to say Piaf.

    I am amazed that nationalists are said to be right wing when this could not be further from the truth.

    Patriotic in not the same as a nationalist.

    Amazing that ANTIFA, BLM, Women's March has brainwashed people, young people into believing they are not fascists simply because of their name. That they are not racist, simply because they are for black people. that they are not nationalists, that they are not working with a nazi mentality. They have convinced people that the right wing is responsible for fascism, nazism, nationalism, racism, so let's give it another try, says the democrats, but we will tell the people we are fighting the very thing we actually represent..
     
  4. Meliai

    Meliai Senior Member

    Well for one the left right divide is a false dichotomy.

    I've always liked political compass.org's political scale with the traditional left/right horizontal scale and a vertical scale added in for authoritarian/libertarian.

    Interestingly enough, political compass.org places almost every US politician, including such evil socialists like Obama, into the right wing, authoritarian quadrant with varying degrees of authoritarianism. Donald Trump is placed slightly to the right but at the very top of the authoritarian scale alongside people like Hitler and Stalin.

    Another person branded an evil socialist by people who dont know what they're talking about, Bernie Sanders, is placed almost right in the middle - a true centrist. Jill Stein, who is probably the epitome of a communist to many of my fellow Americans, is only slightly left of center, and slightly libertarian.

    Not that anyone is interested, but I myself am very far to the left and very libertarian.

    Interesting stuff.
     
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  5. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman mama's boy

    It's tough to find a reliable political compas survey. I wouldn't trust one that asks less than 40 questions. I've always found it interesting where people assign certain politicians, writers, and philosophers. And you're right that you rarely see them on the libertarian side. I've taken the survey more than once, and my coordinates if I usually have been in the (x 3, y -8) and (x 1, y-6) range, depending on my mood.

    I have a hard time seeing Obama deep into the authoritarian right quadrant. Which is one of many reasons why I don't rely on these political compass organizations to assign certain people without having them take the survey.
     
  6. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman mama's boy

    Hitler was socialist too
    [​IMG]

    While he is deemed entirely a nationalist, he was just as much a globalist for taking over Europe.
     
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  7. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

    communism isn't the problem. ideological prejudice of organized crime is.

    no offense to any nation, ideology or belief,
    but i do not believe in the morality of killing people for corporate profits,
    nor ideological prejudice.

    i know that no one will say that they do,
    or have we fallen so far that people don't even care ?

    the whole trump+russia thing, isn't because "russia",
    its because ragun handed russia to the russian mafia,
    and now putin is returning the favor
    and we are loosing consent of the governed because of it.
     
  8. autophobe2e

    autophobe2e Senior Member

    If we're starting the "Hitler was a socilaist" train of thought, then I'm out. A simple google search or looking up definitions of terms could help here, that's not my job. Have fun.
     
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  9. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

    You really don't understand what communism is I think. Not that I support any left wing violence but this statement is just silly. Communism is not democratic socialism nor is communism in theory what Russia once was. So I wonder where you get this? I assume you are talking things like Bernie Sanders and the idea of tax paid education and healthcare.

    Why would a system that gives power to the masses and not the wealthy be funded by the wealthy? It makes no sense.
     
  10. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

    He really wasn't. Why do you think he and Stalin did not get along instead of uniting?


    I assume your implication is that all socialists are like Hitler and therefor bad? That's a pretty weak argument in of itself. As I told Pressed Rat you really don't understand what you say and look for little scarps of information that you think confirm your biases.
     
  11. autophobe2e

    autophobe2e Senior Member

    I made the same mistake you did in not realizing this thread was working under a new set of definitions:

    Liberal, communist, socialist, NAZI and left-wing all mean "bad"

    Fascist means "violent" regardless of ideology

    Nationalist and any phrase relating to economic ideology have no meaning at all.

    I gave up and struck for saner shores, I encourage you to do the same.
     
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  12. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

    the real problem with conspiracies isn't whether people engage in them,
    but rather that the wrong people are always accused of being behind them,
    often by the very people who actually are!
     

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