Anti-Male Bias all around us.

you know, the whole problem with the stay at home dynamic, with the "superiority" of men is that they weren't holding up their end of the bargain. the importance of the equal work for equal pay, the importance of not being dismissed because of your sex, and the battle that is being fought is due to the fact that when a man doesn't hold up his end of the bargain, a woman is left without resources. women like my mother needed to work full time because her husband was NOT giving her any money at all. they were MARRIED for pete's sake. mom wasn't about to go on welfare when she was perfectly capable of working her ass off herself.

btw, fuzzy, you need to get a better job. my husband gets to slack off all her likes. of course, that may be because he's fucking brilliant and well worth his paycheck. for lesser mortals, that might not be possible.

 

This dude raises some realy good issues, soaringeagle stop being an ignorant asshole.

 

insults are the tool of the ignorant

 

and you consider yourself mature?

 

i don't necessarily disagree with his points, i don't necessarily disagree with his frustration. but his constant hissy fits and rude, belittling rants COMPLETELY undermine his entire stance and make him look immature and unreasonable. i think it's nice he and lyns agree on the little lady stay at home thing, personally i'm for it in MY life, but there's spank-loads of women out there not cut out for it or just plain don't want it. they're supposd to feel bad for seeking something better for themselves because some angry white guys have to share the road now? i don't think that's at ALL reasonable.

 

no....actually it was mostly women because it was one of the few jobs they were allowed to have. lots of kids too, as young as 6. i'm not going to argue conditions, but men were paid more because it was believed that men were better workers and had to make more as the breadwinners. that was another reason more women were hired for factory work, they could legally be paid less. this isnt a matter of opinion, its fact. if you dont believe me, look it up.

 

i think we should just bring back amazon society and make all men slaves.

 

yes!!! lol. i call johnny depp. :tongue:

 

hehehehehe. i love you.

 

Depp here. Somebody called for me?
:tongue:

 

johnny!!!

 

Men who don't take care of buisness are a completley different issue. I have only treat my s/o's with respect when they hold the ideals I look for in a man. I know Andy will support me, he has never called me a name (hasn't even said I have acted bitchy). He's never been rough with me when we've been fighting. We make the same amount but I get to spend a lot of my paycheck on clothes and he takes care of most of the bills ( I am trying to get better with this!)...but yeah I've been with people who aren't so upstanding and I jerked them around pretty bad. It's my fault because I made poor choices. I think if more women didn't allow men to act subpar and left themwhen they did men would step it up.

 

you can't handle a real discussion. Evenwhen someone empathisis with your case you want to fight. By the way I know who you are and Skip said he was going to call the canadian authorities if you continued to make up aliases.

 

I tend to be a libertarian but I do agree with some things this guy is saying.

Wemon are painted as fragile, caring and humble while men are painted as rough, crude and violent. Our society makes it this way, through marketing and those hundred thousand plus years we have been here (few thousand or so for my christian readers).

Wemon have been made to be fragile and motherly (caring / nurturing) because their anatomy is USUALLY less muscular then a mans, and they are the spawn carriers.

Men have been made to be violent and crude because we had to be, hunt down your food, kill it and eat that shit up. The people who have said men are pigs yata yata we want 20 sex partners, proliferation of the human race was important and we evolved that way(shoot till your dry and make babies though we are getting a lil crowded)

Oppresion exists between all races and sexes, since the dawn of time id imagine, so dont say you are the only ones being oppresed.

Women did not fight a war for their voting rights, men did when America was created, groundwork is what counts people, remember that all men are created equal thingy, groundwork. Digging a hole isnt hard, breaking the soil is.

Women do not want to be treated as equals, they want to be respected as women, the feminists dont understand this. If I were to treat my female friends the same way i treat my male friends their would be (playful) hitting and comrodarie, but that would be offensive to them (usually!).
Do away with shivalry before you can do away with sexism.

That all being said no one is the same and there will always be discontent in someones heart so surround yourself with people you know and trust, work at a respectable place, communicate with your significant other.
ps- for the LOVE OF [w/e] do not discredit someones opinion, do not flame them just because they are annoying. It says more about your immaturity then it does your maturity.

 

Perhaps we need to redefine equality, then? I don't think equality means sameness.

 

Think about it: if I treated all women in exactly the same way I treated all men, I'd never get laid because I don't sleep with men!

 

Yes, sweetheart? What can Johnny do for you?

 

ahahahhaa, spawn carriers? please dont tell me you say this to the face of someone you wanna fuck

 

I disagree that there's anti-male bias all around us, though I'm sure it exists, depending on where you go and who you hang out with. Like racism, or any other societal phenomenon in which a group of people has been marginalized and oppressed for hundreds of years, the less priviledged group, in this case women, is bound to feel some sense of resentment toward the more priviledged group, particularly given the stereotypes we're faced with.

Now I can relate that men often get shafted when it comes to custody, child support, and divorce issues (having been shafted in a divorce myself), but I think that's a result of our legal system over compensating for the atrocities that were happening up until like 20 years ago regarding dead beat dads.

The major problem that divides the sexes is the stereotypes we've inherited from the 50's: the woman sits at home, cleans the house, takes care of the kids, while the guy's the bread winner, and with that comes the privilege of being a tyrant. It takes time to over come these stereotypes, and the only way to do so is for enough of us to clean up our act. If you're a guy, that means respecting women as equals, and being careful of the types of women you hang out with. There's plenty of mall princesses out there, who expect you do everything for them. You don't have to date them, find someone else who's more independent instead. In fact they're part of the problem, just like their male pig counter parts who treat women like objects, it's a vicious circle that you don't have to buy into.

I finally got with the program and hooked up with a feminist, and I couldn't be happier, in fact I think I can say I'm a feminist myself. After all, feminism is the absurd notion that women are equal to men

 

i dunno, i don't think bragging about fighting the wars is really all that bright, since it wasn't women starting them in the first place. righteous though some of the battles were, women ended up being raped and bullied and terrorized no matter who was in charge. thankfully now we have more power over our fates.