Anti-Male Bias all around us.

Has anyone else ever noticed, or read about, all the anti-male bias around us, meanwhile women are always crying "sexism! sexism!"? If you have, let's discuss it. I think it's rather prevelant in our society and it's pretty disgusting that we aren't allowed to protest with some Feminazi stealing our spotlight.

 

You are one pissed off dude. Awesome.

Now try to calm down and think more deeply on it. Feminism is not the enemy. These problems have been around much longer than feminism. Women didn't steal our spotlight. They made a brand new one. And we shouldn't blame women for our problems because they went about solving theirs. We should be constructive.

 

You don't get it, bro.

There's tons of antimale bias everywhere you look. Feminists are always crying about the antifemale bias all around us. If you try to point out or speak on the antimale bias, you can always count on some feminazi to try to "steal the spotlight" and talk about issues related to women- which is what I'm saying when it's disgusting that men don't seem to be allowed to discuss really important issues.

 

You would get further with "malism" if you weresn't trying to decontrust feminism.

Stand on your own two feet. Feminism isn't the enemy. If there is a problem (and there most certainly is) focus on that, without deconstructing the woman's rights movement. BC that in my opinion, will get you nowhere. (opening my self up to be called an idiot, haha, but at least I already know insults are the tool of the ignorant)

 

geeeee i wonder where anti male attitudes come from?
think about this statistic..i am 1 man, who is the only person over 3000 women have admitted rape to, think about how many others have theyre 1 person they told....or never told anyone..the statistics are staggering..that is just 1 issue
then theres allthe control freaks who seek to "pit women in theyre place" (you come off that way confuzzled) and the abusers thentheres the entitre male dominent society & its inequal treatment of women, so why are you booohooo ing over how you dont get respect as a man?
maybe if more men behaved respectfully they would get it?
there is a anti male bias simply because males have a long wayto go still ..its not against all males ofcourse, but when the typical male, rthe average male, still falls so short on so many points the anti male bias is a good thing something to learn from, theres a reason its there, & its to teach males how to be better males..right? & maybe as more become better..males, humans, whatever, the bias will be obsolete & lifted
so stop boo hooing & ask yourself are you being the best manyou can bem or, justthe typical guy that the bias is against?

 

i am actualy intrigued by this 1 i would love love love to hear what these important issues are to you
why cant i get fucked more often?

we are trying to discuss important issues hrre you asked the question why is there an anti male bias..& th e only answer is... men still have alot to learn
so, shut up, listen to answers & learn something for a change
stop with the typical male bs of always being right no matter how dumb ypu sound & listen to what others are saying for a change
we are givingyou the answers toyour question

the thing you dont understand my freind is, malism feminism are all humanism
basic respect for all men & women equaly
all this femnazi crap proves you have tons to learn
how canyou ever understand the problems on one side without understanding the problems on the other? & the opposing causes & reactions of both?
why do i get the feeling your that same angry umm cowboyblue dude..if you arem or even if your not.. all this blahblahblahing about how ypur so oppressed as a man will never help you as much as a little therapy & maybe taking your balls out of the vice you letsomeone clamp on them...thats the only explanation for all this anger isee

 

Man you should just calm down, be happy there are equal rights movements.
and mabye rethink using a term coined by [size=-1]Rush Limbaugh. Hmm. biased indeed...




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*hug*

 

antimale bias....okay, please name one so that we may discuss it. apparently it disgusts you that these issues cant be discussed, and they are apparently quite important. please enlighten us to your concerns so that we may enlighten you to the both the flaws and possible, if improbable, merits of your sentiment.

the bottom line is this; women have been oppressed for thousands of years. we've been raped, killed, beaten, tortured, enslaved and generally abused by men for generation upon generation. in many countries this is a continuing trend. hell, we havent even been able to vote in this country for a full century yet. women have struggled long and hard for the rights and freedoms we have today, and still there isn't full equality between the sexes. we still get paid only 72 cents for every dollar earned by men in the workplace, so we still have work to do. forgive us if we come off as being a bit too uppity and independent for your taste, because we fucking EARNED it. we aren't anti-male, we're just pro-don't-lose-our-hard-earned-freedoms-for-women-to-men-who-don't-think-we-should-have-them.

 

Oh bla bla bla. When I met you 2 years ago, that number was "dozens", now it's thousands? Please dude, quit lying to futher your claims.

Duuuuude, catch up with the tiiiimes man. This is 2007, not 1957.

You're good at spewing gibberish.

Take your own advice.

How about this one. Custody rates. When a woman divorces a man, 9 times out of 10, she gets custody.

And have you bothered to watch movies/TV lately? Men are being portrayed more and more as moronic buffoons while their wives/girlfriends are depicted as intelligent and authoritarian. Ever watched King of Queens? If you look back on TV over a generation ago... compare John Wayne to Homer Simpson.

And another one. Rape charges. If you are accused of rape, say goodbye to the outside world. Even if the female is lying and there is no evidence, chances are, you're going to jail. Whether you did it or not.

Women recieve lesser pentalties for crimes comitted than men do.

Men have higher auto-insurance.

Bottom line is this: Men have been oppressed for thousands of years: by other men. They've been killed, beaten, tortured, enslaved and generally abused by other men for generation upon generation. You think women are the only one's who suffer? In a patriarchal society, who rules? The men? Fat chance and far from it. A man leads. Or a small group of men leads, and send the other men off to get killed, beaten, tortured, and enslaved and generally abused in warfare. And labor.

You know, the voting system in America isn't that much older than a century.

women have struggled long and hard for the rights and freedoms we have today, and still there isn't full equality between the sexes.

Um, I'm going to point out a major flaw in your "72 cents for every dollar" argument. Basically it goes like this. If there's $1.75 being earned every year by employed people, 72 cents of it are earned by women, and the dollar is earned by men. Now, this does NOT mean that if a man and woman work at, say, Target, the man will make $1.00 and the woman will only make $.75. What this is a reflection of is the fact that men tend to do more of the dirty jobs, the more dedicated jobs, like doctor, dealing with toxic waste, etc etc, and women are more inclined to take the more cush (and lower paying jobs) of teacher, nurse, etc.

So. If women are only earning 72 (and you know, that's a figure from 1998) it's their own fault for not picking higher paying jobs. Oh well.

What freedoms were so hard earned? You cried and whined and boycotted a bit and were given the right vote and do anything else you want.

There were no women fighting the battle of Thermopylae. No woman marched upon Rome with a sword in her hand to free her tribes from the rule of foreigners. India's liberation was inspired by a man.

But anyway, you prove my point.

I wanted to talk about anti-male bias, and

Some feminazis came and stole the topic and turned it from "antimale bias" into "woe is women. we have nothing. we are not equal yet. pitty us, cater to our flawed logic."

Back on topic. Further flames and ignorance *will* be ignored on my part. This is **MEN'S ISSUES** forum and I'm here to talk about a **MEN'S ISSUE**, which is anti-**MALE** bias. So either crap or get off the pot.

Thank you.

 

you are the reason for anti male bios..men just like you...isnt it odvios by the every responce? every word you say rubs people the wrong way..why?
because what you spount is pure bullshit

this is a male issue forum yes, mens biggest issue is in relating to women, just as womens maybe living in a world with men who still feel men alone are fit to rule it..everl mens issie is a womens issue just as every womens issie is a mens issue
we are all human & need to live work play & love together
you cannot seperate one from another so easily
so unless you are willing to listen to others opinions, simply shut up & dont post
every opinion here is valid but you choose to only recognize your own
which is the opinion thats pissing everyone off so maybe you should examine the possibil;ity that every thought u have just might be wrong

 

Like I said, further flaming will be ignored.

 

flaming? its called trying to educate a dumbass & yea u can igore & never learn & go on being stuck & miserable...odviosly your a pro at that

 

I have not really noticed an anti-male bias in the world at large except maybe up in the pacific northwest or something

 

so....you want a discussion.....and ignore people who don't agree with what you say? mature.

i will admit that some of your responses to my post had merit. yes, humankind (both men and women) have suffered at the hands of others. but even the man who was oppressed and beaten down by more powerful men could still come home to beat and rape his wife, and it was either ignored or accepted by society.

i can't contest your statement about wages, because i dont have a great deal or knowledge on the subject, but i can say that neither nursing or teaching are "cushy" jobs. my mom is a teacher, and she has had to deal with students physically hurting her or other students on numerous occasions. do you go in to your job wondering, "might i get punched in the face by an emotionally disturbed, mentally impaired teenager today?" and nurses don't have an easy job either. i plan on becoming a nurse, and have researched the career quite a bit. i'm not going to go into details, but i would like you to elaborate on why you feel being a doctor is a more demanding job than that of a nurse.

but since i'm probably on your ignore list as well, theres not much point in writing more because even if you do read it you will most likely disreguard it as more feminist bullshit.

 

well, confuzzled, it's a matter of equality. you have to accept the concept down to your very core. and that includes acceptance that men are not superior in any way shape or form that matters to ANYONE except to those such as yourself who cling to whatever scraps of Dominion your forefathers held. it's over, let it go. you're not getting it back. you are not every going to be regarded as superior except on your own personal merit. unfortunately, for one reason or another, you're being frustrated in your efforts. that sounds like a personal problem to me that you need to address.

 

agreed (yea im ignored so what im still discussing this with you since you seeminteligent & have a mind that can concider other opunions) teaching and mursing are 2 of the most demanding jobs , my sunshine was a nurse, at 13, when your 13, elbow deep inside someones chest hoping that his death wont come in the next momment, when you work 18-20 hour shidts in a high stress environment where lives hang in the bllance if you slip up & dont do your job right..anyone..male or female who would willingly do such a demanding & taxing job desserves utmost respect..& every doctor would tell you, they are useless without theyre nurses, the dr though spends 3 minutes with a patient makes 1 quick decision & a scribble on a prescroption pad earns a 2000$ consultation fee while the nurses caring for the same patient hour by hour day by day earns barely over minimum
im not umplying the pay should be rqual since dr's do require more insurance & school & all, but the inequality is drastic & the workload of nurses double or tripple that of dr's in general

he sure has a strange idea of what a cushy job is..lol nursing can be 1 of the toughest jobs there is..i couldnt doit & i know it..lol

& as for teachers, i have never known any1 ro get into teaching cause its cushy or easy ..they get intoit because its theyre passion to teach..to spread wisdom & knowledge
even attempting to reach that child in the back row with fingers in ears attempting to ignore every word
stull they try & gotta give em credit for that

 

I ignored boringeagle for his incessant stupidity and his continued harassment of me. Plus, I really can't take someone seriously in an online discussion when they cannot read and type. I think those are two essential skills for textual communication, no?

Other than that, no one is really disagreeing with what I said that I can see. Someone asked for examples and I gave them some. Really, I posted about anti-male bias, to discuss anti-male bias, and a bunch of chicks came in and said "Oh boo hoo, what about us women, we're so discriminated against."

Please. I even pointed out how that always happens. Thanks for reinforcing my claim. It sucks being right sometimes.

I don't know many nurses who are 50+ grand in debt with student loans and such to get their degree in... nursing. Many doctors come out of school already in debt. The reason nurses get paid less is because they are less educated.

Not really, but I am going to disregard it as a red herring. I'm trying to talk about anti-male bias, and a bunch of feminists have come and taken over the topic. Very equal there. Hey, you know, if you wanna complain about all the things women have had to suffer over the past 10,000 years, you have your own section of this website to do it in. Why aren't we allowed to talk about anti-male bias? Why don't you want this discussed?

 

sorry, confuzzled, it was only one woman who said anything. unfortunately, male bias and female bias are inextricably linked.

 

we have tried to explain anti male bios to you & you stuckyour fingers in your ears & ran away crying unwilling to face its causes
so i guess we can go on discussing it without you
the anti male bios is simply becauseof a general lack of respect...as well as guys like you who scream about everyone who is able to relate to women as humans being femenized pussies
ofcourse we all know that isin no way a limmitation of my or anyones masculinity & you calling me that is no threat to it eitherm its simply your inability to argue with common sence that threattens your very anti social viewpoint
in another thread you stated that theres not a woman alive you respect..is that not cause enough for an anti male bias?
ofcourse i feel no anti male bias directed at me, so perhaps its just the kind of male you portray yourself as that the bias is against?
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