Another TR

So Saturday night I did some 2c-e with a friend; 20mg to be exact, while smoking cannabis throughout the night

Basically the night started when we smoked the first bowl for the day. About 5 minutes later we dosed the 2c-e.

After that, we basically chilled for a few minutes and then left to go smoke a bowl with my friend's friend. Let me also add at this point, that we had both not smoked for about 2 weeks, and this was some great cannabis.

We came back and sat down. Not too long after just relaxing for a bit, the new Shpongle album was put on. My friend started feeling some nausea, and I guess you could say this is where the trip started going "downwards". It never really went bad, but this seemed to kick off a chain reaction of weird things.

Basically my friend was a vegetable for about an hour during the beginning of the peak, just mumbling about nausea. Smoking weed didn't help his stomach, and neither did some fresh ginger capped. Eventually he vomited and felt better, but him just sitting around doing nothing made me feel kind of bad.

Once the Shpongle album was done was about when he went and vomited, so I turned on some different music and lay face down in my sofa.

The visuals were so ridiculous. Looking at my bookshelf, it started tearing right in the middle, the two sides dissolving into the atomic level, and merging with the air. I turned my face back into the pillow, and this is where the weirdest vision started.

Basically, a close friend committed suicide this summer, and I've been thinking about it a lot recently. Suddenly my mind started playing back a scene involving my friend; At first he was alive, and everything was great. All was happy, but then suddenly he disappeared. Then I got the news that he was gone, and time slowed the hell down. Literally to nothing.

Time did no longer exist, and everything was still. My whole mind just kept saying: "And then the horrible happened, and time SLOWED THE FUCK DOWN".

For 2 minutes I was incapacitated thinking about this in complete blackness. Slowly I sat up and the whole room was vibrating at about the speed of light.

The rest of the trip was spent just smoking weed and relaxing. Nothing ever went so bad I was actually scared, it just went weird type bad.
My friend said he liked the trip (he's done 15mg before) but that it was a little too intense for him. I didn't find it THAT intense, but it was certainly different when so much more weed was smoked with the 2c-e.

Anyways, I'm done with 2c-e for a bit. This trip just left me wanting to take at least a month long break from dosing 2c-e. It's definitely powerful, and the message I'm getting loud and clear right now is: Put down the 2c-e, you've learned what you need to.

Edit: Or at least dosed as much as I need to. This trip just left confusion in my mind, and I want to figure all of it out before I confuse myself more.

 

ive had trips go "weird" before. like def not a bad trip cuz i dont believe in them but just weird. my friend jus committed suicide the monday before thangsgiving and ive got a few diff chems coming in and i know im gonna be thinking about him and im not entirely sure how thats gonna go. im def pretty sure smking all that weed intensified it too much for your friend. i dont smk at all so i really cant say but everything ive heard about smking on 2c-e is that it makes it way crazier. nice TR CS

 

ive had a few "weird" trips, i dont really like them. but heh, i guess i learn from them.

 

next time i take 2ce it's probably gonna be 17 mg and i'm gonna try not to smoke weed until the end. your friend could try that too.
weed definitely intensifies it and can make things weird. my most intense trip ever was on approximately 20 mg 2ce and a lot of bong hits. i thought i would never be sober again.

 

Sorry about your trip going south. Nobody should commit suicide by no means, but maybe it was their time to go. And you have to respect that. When I trip and think about the people lost, I show them respect and love and show them I am not weak for loosing them.

My acid trip this last weekend I thought about my dad... I have never thought about my dad on psychs before, and it was weird... But it was kinda nice. He died when I was 3, I don't remember him at all. My mom didn't talk about him at all when I was growing up, but did tell me that they were together when it happened and she was a widow. Come to find out when I was 16 that they wern't together, he didn't even live in the same state and they were divorced... Pretty F'ed up imo. But during that trip thinking about him it cleared my mind about alot of it and it helped. Don't let it bring you down, specially when on drugs.

 

You'll get over that.

 

i've had that time slowing down to where I thought it stopped and I thought for a second I was about to die. This was when I took like 30mg of 2c-i rectally, and I'm pretty sure I had weed also. I just didnt know 2c-i was capable of what I was experiencing.

 

That is a good realization to come to...i'm in the midst of a well needed break.

it's not how far you go, it's what you bring back

 

Yup I'm at the exact same spot. When tripping starts to confuse and hurt you, it's time to take a break, you're saturated with the trip, you need time to live it in the rest of the world.

 

haha but he said a month...he's quite the trooper

so what did you think about the new shpongle??

 

Im guessing your trip was something like the horse in your signature. haha that poor horsey.

 

Today has been 1 month and 2 days since I've tripped. I feel SO much better in many ways, much less "fragile". I can't believe how emotionally, intellectually, and abstractly fragile I got. I now want to take a break from cannabis too . . . i don't get any benefits from it and i get some downsides. I feel even more "together" when I haven't smoked pot for a while. This will just make my next trip that much better

the new shpongle . . . it didn't blow me away. I mean, as soon as I listened to the first track, I was like "Yes! They've done it again!" and the second one is awesome, but after that . . . nothing really catches my attention and I even dislike the I am You track, it's too pop-y. I'm more into their Shulman-esque side. But I need to listen to it a few more times to give it proper due.

 

I can't wait to let my brain decipher Shpongolese Spoken Here next time I trip. That shit is some CANDY

 

i feel you on the needing a break from weed. i stopped back in july for meditative purposes. it used to lend a hand but when i smoke multiple times every day it starts to clog my mind rather than clarify it. I stopped for a month and since then I still only smoke once a week. I would love to smoke more, but for mindful and school purposes doing it once a week was the best decision. I'll return to my daily smokes sometimes in the near future though

as for shpongle the new shpongle i really like it. i listened to it four times in a row when i first got it and that may have helped. I wouldn't go as far as to asy its my favorite, but I really like it. I don't get the poppy vibe...but i dont know. right now my favorite song is "invisible man in a fluorescent suit" and "nothing is something worth doing" but i like it all

i agree...i have some 2ce waiting for me and i will be experiencing lots of shpongle during that trip

 

Yeah, I definitely hear that.
Death + Psychedelics is a weird place to be sometimes. Earlier this summer (right after he died) I took 60mg of 2c-e. I blacked out, and then right after that point, it felt as if I was put right into a world of complete despair with no hope for just 2 seconds; it somehow felt like I thought he did at the point of death. I know I didn't feel exactly like he did, but it helped my mind a bit.

Sorry to hear about your dad


Mr. Writer, I agree completely with what you say about Cannabis. Ever since I started tripping, I've tried to cut down the smoking to once a week, or less. Smoking daily = Clouded head, and I just want to smoke more.

Glad to hear your break is working out, though. I definitely think I'm ready to just relax for a bit now. Although, I am VERY tempted to take aMT on New Year's.


Vibes, the new shpongle was pretty good. Although, I barley remember most of it. I think what I need to do is listen to it a few times sober to give you a full report on what I think. From what I remember, it seemed very indian influenced. I liked it, but there has been better.

I've never felt as good listening to shpongle as I did the first time I found out about the on mushrooms. <3
IMO Shpongle doesn't fit too well with 2ce.. I don't feel quite in the shpongle vibe. For me, 2ce music = blues = Hendrix tearing up a guitar.

 

i could use a break from smoking too. but shit, if i'm not tripping..i like to smoke. i'd gladly substitute tripping in for smoking.

 

I have to smoke weed everyday. It helps with my pain, stomach issues and it calms me down alot. I would be jumping off the walls every day all day physically and mentally if I didn't smoke weed. I generally smoke 1.5 - 2g per day.

 

i like to smoke weed everyday. but i like to think i don't have to. i smoke about .7g a day to myself, through my bong

 

Yea, if I didn't smoke say in the morning before work, my tummy would be straight cramps all day. I smoke at lunch when I can take one and after work is when I smoke the most. I wish I could think or really not have to, but it really sucks without smoking for me.

It's quite an expensive habit, which really sucks.

 

Yeah that sucks, what kind of prices you get in The Big Freeze?

CS, sorry about your friend, missed that part. Death is the strangest trip of all, still. I think all that happens is we become . . . undifferentiated. A drop back in the ocean.

Nice to hear similar thoughts on pot. A lot of people think I'm weird when I tell them I can't do something "because I'm high". They don't understand how pot can in any way affect anything I do lol. I'm just not one of those people who can get high and function very well. It makes me just want to keep getting high, and eat, and be lazy. It's not a "neutral" substance for me, it has a coherent direction it pulls me in, and that direction is not the best when shit needs to be handled.

I also get bad pot hangovers the next day, I have a weird feeling like a cloudiness and cotton-filled pressure in my head, and it obviously does not go well with having irritable bowel syndrome (the massively increased food intake).

It could be related to HOW I take my pot though; one evening session, about a gram to my face from a bubbler, often with some potentiator or second drug, whether it's a bump of K, a few g of rue, an amanita cap, or what have you. So I get a massive THC dose in one go. I notice when I spread it out, don't go bananas all in one session, these hangover symptoms are not as bad.

Interesting that you say 2c-e is more of a Hendrix thing than a Shpongle thing. I listen to both so I will try both when I try 2c-e