butylone; methylone's disabled cousin, or the little 5-ht bomb that could? so basically, i recently received a free sample of 250mg along with some aMT [which made the entire package smell like amt, so i thought i just got 2 bags of aMT until i read the label...sure was a buzz kill]. ANYHOW, there's not much out there on this one, and I've never felt very compelled to try, but ANY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE? i think i'll probably just file it away and wait until i'm out of other drugs and take at a renegade or something, but i'm not even sure i want to take it, as it's supposed to have a bad comedown [at least bad comedown for it's moderate effects]. can anybody speak regarding this? can anybody make me a little more enthusiastic about my free gift?:coffee: rettyplease:
So i tested it on a friend...he said it was mild. it's going on the bottom of all the other stuff i've got, i'm sure i'll find it one day when i'm really bored..though i'm sure i'll still have something important do do the next day. Can anybody speak to the day after effects? rcable, you've taken it haven't you?
Naw. My source offered it once, but he focuses one pushing what sells, in large quantities. A business-minded individual. He can make/deliver three or more other RCs that outsell that any day of the week. If someone ORDERED KGs of it I'm sure it'd be for sale, but people who just want to taste it and forget about it do not a business make. I'll stick to face-planting into molehills of methylone for now.
Yes. Usually when I orally ingest it. Hours later I'm too high to do anything about it. My distinction between psychedelic phenomenon, hallucination, and 'that which is real' becomes so terrifyingly thin I resort to 'death by a thousand cuts' in a state of paralysis, fearing any action on my part would just make the knife-thrower miss their mark and impale my heart instead of a thrilling display of acuity by outlining my silhouette with sharp objects, figuratively. Wasn't that amazing, audience? Lets see if he can do it again! Really, I might get such a bad trip I would do all that crazy shit you read about in the papers like 'guy high on PCP runs naked down the street throwing dumpsters at cars' or whathaveyou. Since 'fucking up' in public, and being safely escorted home, I learned my limits of action, and abstain from doing anything rash when I know I'm in another world. Conversely, when I K-hole - good/badness aside - I'm more anchored/favored to simply lay still - musclerelaxationharcore... no random neurons sparking to initiate a fight or flee response. I guess that's why it was a functional horse tranq for years before K got 'special'. k-hole = physical paralysis/relaxtion flipoutylone = mentally self-imposed 'I am a tree' action used by some deers caught in headlights
i've never gotten to "flipoutylone" status. what kind of doses does it take for that? i've had one or 2 experneices on methylone where it's just been so intense i just layed in bed and kinda dissolved into euphoria. Albeit very different from k, the sense of a high building up intensity and craziness and eventually reaching some kind of clarity was the comparison i was drawing.
AND BTW i snorted 30mg of the butylone while very drunk the other day...just a mild moodlift. according to my friend who took more "it's no methylone"
flip out alone is probably very subject and setting oriented, but my usual method is to put a gram on the table, wonder where it all went, then put another down, and see how long this repeats before I am irrigating my nasal passages to open them.
haha...fffuuuccckkk. and the stuff you're dealing with [snow white as opposed to the brown methylone] hits really hard when snorted. it's easy to watch a gram disappear, but not by yourself.
Eh, if people can put down eighths of MDMA in a night, I'm sure you could blow through some methylone if you had a bunch.
I get really bad anxiety from it, almost to the point where I think I'm having a heart attack. It leaves my chest feeling tight for the comedown and the day after. The positive effects aren't even that great. It's like a watered-down mephedrone, and is complete shit if you're trying to get an effect similar to MDMA. I've had no problems with methylone or mephedrone, only butylone.
kind of...but i was drunk, so i may as well have just snorted some pure caffeine. At any rate, i'm now more interested to compare it to methylone, but most sources say that methylone wins... i'm not sure if i could set aside my initial biases though...especially since i don't have enough of the material to take more than 1 full dose now, but i'll pass my judgment then but yea, that's the sort of thing i'm used to reading about it. kind of makes me not want to take it. then post a thread asking for personal experience, thanks!
Well, what do I know - it must be interesting enough for my source to tell me it is in stock now. Maybe I'll get to that part of the menu someday. :conehead: In the mean time I have to test the meph first, what does the manufacturer know aside price/weight and theoretical ~.2g dosage units being 'safe' (what we do in the name of science).