American soil

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by MirakulouslyDead, Oct 26, 2004.

  1. MirakulouslyDead

    MirakulouslyDead Member

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    it nearly makes me sick to think how the land Americans live on ....... worstly, destroy so knowingly...... is nothing other than stolen .

    whats this shit about Manifest Destiny?

    do you feel bad? if not, you should.....if nothing else, because of the way it is so disrespected. If you're gonna steal something....violently at that....at least respect it

    how can America be so ugly in so many ways?
     
  2. olhippie54

    olhippie54 Touch Of Grey Lifetime Supporter

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    What we did here in taking over this land is no different then any other civilization throughout the history of mankind. The less advanced civilization is pushed aside for the more advanced one. Get over it. It's the natural course of things.
     
  3. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    Well said Olhippie54...
     
  4. Fractual_

    Fractual_ cosmos factory

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    what IS this shit about manifest destiny? and i guess it depends on how you define advanced too
     
  5. loveflower

    loveflower Senior Member

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    go marc!
     
  6. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Like, oh my god.... it's called history.

    Nobody said it was pretty.
     
  7. BraveSirRubin

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    Every piece of land on earth is in some sense stolen... at least one nation has conquested it in the last 10,000 years... so stop bitchin.
     
  8. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    And if it's not even considered to be a civilization, as the American Indians were portrayed, then it's doomed. "Civilized" man seems to have a need to bring civilization to the world.
     
  9. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    isnt american soil that show where people sing and you vote for who is the best singer?

    oh wait thats american idol...ok continue conversation
     
  10. Mr MiGu

    Mr MiGu King of the Zombies

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    thats the white mans burden for ya
     
  11. moonshyne

    moonshyne Approved by the FDA

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    I happen to agree with you, even if no one else does. Massacring almost an entire race of people and then daring to call them barbarians is disgusting.
     
  12. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    Well to be fair, the Spanish did it before us... :rolleyes:
     
  13. moonshyne

    moonshyne Approved by the FDA

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    True, but that doesn't make it any better :p
     
  14. MirakulouslyDead

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    :) what a fun thread!

    Who ever says, 'oh my God, it's called history" .......ummmm, when will the race of man stop driving ourselves into the ground and pushing it off on 'history' and 'the way things go'. Did anyone ever stop to think we should learn from history and the MISTAKES....progress ourselves and our minds....and STOP ?

    species progress over time, human beings being at the front of all ability to progress. The important development isn't the big ole muscles people have on their arms but the astounding muscle found up in your head......if you're thinking is along the same lines as the people thoughout history im sorry, but that's really sad.

    im curious, are you really such shit that you would say to any Native American.....''get over it, it's history. it has happened all throughout time...the civilized come in and take over''
    :rolleyes: please, and trust me, sometimes you should think a little bit before you speak...point is, all these responses have personally made a Powhatan sick to his stomach.....to see if only you could show a little remorse and acknowledge a wrongdoing and so many of the replies on this thread fail :mad: how awfuly sad ugly a thing

    to some others in this thread at least showing a little concern, thank you and thank the Spirit to know the race of man isn't maybe soooo bad off
     
  15. moonshyne

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    The thing about the whole "it's history, get over it," shit is that it ISN'T history....people are still suffering from it.

    Most people won't admit it though, because then they'd also have to admit that they are part of the problem.
     
  16. MirakulouslyDead

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    obviously, not nearly as 'advanced'.....or wait, do you mean like advanced in ways to destroy the land and the people?

    i think 'advanced' is so cool, I mean look how happy the world is....fucking great to be 'advanced'......question is, what is advanced....just further down the line? I see this as true but as usual only partialy true.....truth is further down the line of destruction and self mutalation
     
  17. duckandmiss

    duckandmiss Pastafarian

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    it nearly makes me sick to think how the land Canadians live on ....... worstly, destroy so knowingly...... is nothing other than stolen .

    whats this shit about the french?

    do you feel bad? if not, you should.....if nothing else, because of the way it is so disrespected. If you're gonna steal something....violently at that....at least respect it

    how can france be so ugly in so many ways?
     
  18. duckandmiss

    duckandmiss Pastafarian

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    it nearly makes me sick to think how the land the Americans live on ....... worstly, destroy so knowingly...... is nothing other than stolen .



    whats this shit about colonialism?



    do you feel bad? if not, you should.....if nothing else, because of the way it is so disrespected. If you're gonna colonize a place....violently at that....at least respect it.



    how can england be so ugly in so many ways?
     
  19. MirakulouslyDead

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    well said and right on the point.....so glad to hear from an individual with a bit of compassion

    especially uphold your bottom statement....how much more true can it be....and i'll tell you the answer from a lot of the ones in that category ... GREED ... not to mention the huge portrayal of these fucking ego's people have....

    i say fuck your ego
     
  20. olhippie54

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    I think few would argue that the handling of the American Indians could have been done better.

    But, one advanced civilization pushing out the less advanced is inevitable. When this happens it's inately violent. Hopefully, man learns from history and handles each time with more thought and compassion then the previous time.
    Should i apologize for what happened to the indians a couple of centuries ago? No. I wasn't even born then. But, we are all responsible for the treatment of those less fortunate in our own time.
     
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